Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box

[Christians4LessGvt]

If their enemys were dead or sufficiently crippled , they would not need a lot of aid.
That is the cheap out for the US.

Yes exactly Plane!
OMG.....an entity may use it's full power to stop another entity,
whose leaders repeatedly threaten their very existence,
from attaining the weapons to actually carry out their repeated threats.
Such a "stupid" idea!
Up is down and down is up.
Yes it's "smart" to allow someone wanting to "wipe you off the map" to get nukes!
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.....Up is down and down is up!

[Xavier_Onassis]

Israel will never be able to gain acceptance in its location by bombing others in the neighborhood.
Iran is at most, a verbal threat to Israel. Iran has 77 million people and no number of any sort of bombs will cause Iran to leave, to cease to exist, or to become Israel's buddies.

Israel is one of the least popular countries on the planet. Bombing Iran will make them even MORE unpopular. Many Liberal American Jews, and there are a lot of them, will stop sending money, stop investing money, cease to donate money to Israel.

This has already begun to happen with the Israeli government subsidizing the unproductive Ultra-Orthodox who pay no taxes, have dozens of children, refuse to serve in the military and live in subsidized housing. Their only activity is Torah study. When they retire, the Israeli government pays them a nice pension. On the Sabbath, they come out and throw stones at people who dare to drive a car and yell at girls wearing tanktops and shorts.

They are pretty close to the fictional Welfare Queens that Reagan spoke about. With the important difference that they exist.

[Plane]

Do Isreals neighbors crave acceptance?

If they did , there might be a middle to meet in.

I am certain that sufficent firepower is a workable substitute for peace.

It might be all that is availible , both sides need to want to find peace , for any real peace to be found.

When Iran has built an Atomic arsenal, how will this situation have been improved?

[Christians4LessGvt]

the Israeli government subsidizing the unproductive Ultra-Orthodox who pay no taxes, have dozens of children, refuse to serve in the military and live in subsidized housing. Their only activity is Torah study. When they retire, the Israeli government pays them a nice pension. On the Sabbath, they come out and throw stones at people who dare to drive a car and yell at girls wearing tanktops and shorts. With the important difference that they exist.

Can you provide a source for all of this information?

And even if all of it were true...."dozens of chilren".....ha ha....ect
are you pretending only Israeli society has a group on the fringe?
hell we pay our outrageous disgraceful politicians a pension
I am sure Israel is shaking in their boots over leftist not donating money!

ps: I know lots of lazy ass, irresponsible welfare queens....

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/10/80_charged_with_welfare_fraud.html

[BSB/Hero/Genius/MovieStar]

There are scenarios where the use of nuclear weapons could justifiably be used to stop a sovereign nation from furthering its ability to manufacture nuclear weapons. This isn't one of them. It's not even close to being one of them. It could become one of them, but it's not very likely.

This kind of "nuke 'em" nonsense is what you get from the far right religious nut-jobs in this country. They're no different than Imadinnerjacket and his crowd. Same big mouth and no balls.


BSB     

[Xavier_Onassis]

The welfare queens know they are screwing the government.
The Ultra-Orthodox believe that it is all part of God's Plan.
'We have some of these religious freeloaders here as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/nyregion/kiryas-joel-a-village-with-the-numbers-not-the-image-of-the-poorest-place.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

[Christians4LessGvt]

Iran is at most, a verbal threat to Israel.

Exactly....and that's the way it will stay because the IslamoNazis will not be allowed to attain nuclear missles.

[Plane]

There are scenarios where the use of nuclear weapons could justifiably be used to stop a sovereign nation from furthering its ability to manufacture nuclear weapons. This isn't one of them. It's not even close to being one of them. It could become one of them, but it's not very likely.

This kind of "nuke 'em" nonsense is what you get from the far right religious nut-jobs in this country. They're no different than Imadinnerjacket and his crowd. Same big mouth and no balls.


BSB   

What is the lacking element?

[BSB/Hero/Genius/MovieStar]

The lacking element?

Brains.

BSB

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is pretty naive to say that anything will NEVER happen.

And, really, Christians", ditch that "Islamonazi" crap, it makes you sound like an idiot.

It is just like the term "Zionazi": stupid propaganda.

[Plane]

When President Obama said that Iran must not be allowed to develop atomic wepons , did he mean something diffrent than Netanyahu ment?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I think that he did.

Obama trusts diplomacy and sanctions.

Netanyahu trusts neither.

Preemptive strikes seem to be fine with Netanyahu. If he has not done one, it is because the US would need to provide the bomb and some degree of support. President Obama is unlikely to attack Iran unless Iran has actually started something.

[BSB/Hero/Genius/MovieStar]

Lets understand a few things before getting even further off the track and into crap like what did Obama mean?

Israel doesn't have the capacity to stop Iran's pursuit of either nuclear war heads, or the missiles to deliver them short of all out war. If they went to war they could bomb Iran. Not the sites, but Iran itself. That is not going to happen.

The United States has the capacity, militarily, to slow the program down, but not to stop it either short of all out war. 

The reason for this is simple. Iran's program is spread out all over the country in hundreds of sites. Also, many of the sites are deep underground. The reason nothing has been militarily is because it won't take out that kind of setup. This is why Obama is pressing for a diplomatic solution.


BSB

[BSB/Hero/Genius/MovieStar]

And BTW, since we're in an election year lets not overlook the fact that Osama has not been afraid to use our military power. In particular our special operating forces which he has used brilliantly from the SEAL snipers on the fantail of the carrier to the bin Laden operation.  He understands the war we're engaged in. You can't use a broadsword against this enemy. Bush didn't understand that. You have to use a rapier. You keep the cutting sword at the ready but essentially this is a personal fight, a duel, where thrusting is the key. Killing in large numbers is not the objective. Specific killing is.

If elected, will Romney understand this? I've seen nothing to suggest he understands anthing about the use of our military. However, one never knows until they sit in the chair.

BSB

[Plane]

Obama seems to have a "take no prisoners" policy.

The use of drones to assissanate Al Queda leaders is causing colateral damage because the Al Queda leadership is generally hiding in the proximity of people we don't really need to shoot, we are earning a bit of ill will.

I can't complain tho , because I can't think up a better choice.