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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2012, 01:58:55 PM »
This fungal creme was prescribed by my GP. Unfortunately, the doctor wrote the word "ointment" instead of the word "creme" and the pharmaceutical assistant refused sell me the creme even though there was no such thing as this product (same percentage) in anything called "ointment". I had to wait a day for the fools at Walgreen's to contact the doctor.

Any sane person would know that a 2% ointment would not have any different effects than a 2% creme. But the law is the law, and as a Dickens character once said "The Law is a ass."
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2012, 12:33:25 PM »
Drugstores bugs me
All those people working and it still takes forever to get my drugs i'm not saying they don't work hard but they do seem get bottleneck at the pickup window.

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2012, 02:29:37 PM »
The people may work hard, but the process of selling a prescription is laborious.

In countries that do not require a prescription or keep a record of every customer, you are in and out in under a minute: Mexico, Spain,  Argentina, Uruguay, Ecuador and France.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2012, 01:33:58 AM »
True mexico isveasy on getting stuff quick but they got almost a store on every block in tj. It think its had to get regular drugs there. Ex. Asprin

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2012, 11:37:01 AM »
There is no sound reason why people would prefer to pay a penalty and get nothing rather than a premium and get something.

There is a basic difference between car insurance and medical insurance: everybody dies, nearly always of something that requires some form of medical aid.

Not everyone has a car accident. Many people have none, many more have no serious car accidents.

The truth is that Romneycare seems to be working quite well in Massachusetts. There are few reasons why it could not work well in the entire country, and with some tweaks, it seems that it will be quite successful.

Ironically, voting for Romney will likely deprive most Americans of the only really good thing that this guy has done in his political career.

His campaign is not going well. He is looking more and more like Bob Dole.
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2012, 01:12:38 PM »
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The truth is that Romneycare seems to be working quite well in Massachusetts. There are few reasons why it could not work well in the entire country, and with some tweaks, it seems that it will be quite successful.

Ironically, voting for Romney will likely deprive most Americans of the only really good thing that this guy has done in his political career.




This is one of the reasons that Romney was not my favoriate.
I don't think he will eliminate Obamacare as he ought.

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 06:21:14 PM »
He won't be elected. But he could not remove all the provisions of the ACA if he were elected. Once you have declared that no one can be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions, removing it is not really going to be possible.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 07:45:00 PM »
He won't be elected. But he could not remove all the provisions of the ACA if he were elected.

I guess there's only 1 way to find out now

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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 07:58:20 PM »
The Obamacare Medical Device Tax – a $20 billion tax increase:  Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. Obamacare imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on gross sales – even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year.  In addition to killing small business jobs and impacting research and development budgets, this will increase the cost of your health care – making everything from pacemakers to prosthetics more expensive.


The Obamacare “Special Needs Kids Tax” – a $13 billion tax increase:  The 30-35 million Americans who use a Flexible Spending Account (FSA) at work to pay for their family’s basic medical needs will face a new government cap of $2,500 (currently the accounts are unlimited under federal law, though employers are allowed to set a cap).

There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children.  There are several million families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare tax provision will limit the options available to these families.


The Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income – a $123 billion tax increase:  This is a new, 3.8 percentage point surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single).  This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income:

         Capital Gains    Dividends    Other*
2012     15%                 15%            35%
 
2013+   23.8%              43.4%         43.4%
The table above also incorporates the scheduled hike in the capital gains rate from 15 to 20 percent, and the scheduled hike in dividends rate from 15 to 39.6 percent.


The Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deductions – a $15.2 billion tax increase: Currently, those Americans facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI).  This tax increase imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. By limiting this deduction, Obamacare widens the net of taxable income for the sickest Americans.  This tax provision will most harm near retirees and those with modest incomes but high medical bills.


The Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike -- an $86.8 billion tax increase:  The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits.  Under this tax hike, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate instead. This is a direct marginal income tax hike on small business owners, who are liable for self-employment tax in most cases. The table below compares current law vs. the Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike:

                                 First $200,000                         All Remaining Wages
                              ($250,000 Married)                     Employer/Employee
                               Employer/Employee 
Current Law               1.45%/1.45%                           1.45%/1.45%
                                   2.9% self-employed                 2.9% self-employed
 
Obamacare Tax Hike   1.45%/1.45%                          1.45%/2.35%
                                    2.9% self-employed                3.8% self-employed

 
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 08:00:37 PM »
Those are just the 5 worst.  Thare are many other tax hikes, in Obamination Care, alone, that hurt the coveted middle class the most
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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2012, 09:00:24 PM »
Although Mitt Romney is not my ideal canadate , I am likly to vote for him because President Obama is so much further from my ideal.

There are six or eight points of the Obama-care bill that most of us like.

I especially like that my children don't need their own insurance untill they turn 26, I hate the idea of loosing that.

But the solution is very simple, we should write those eight features that the public loves onto a 3x5 card , make that into a bill that the Congress can make into law and preserve the bit that is well liked.

The eighty pound version of the "Affordable Health Care Act" can then be repealed with no pain at all.

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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2012, 11:36:56 PM »
The eighty pound version of the "Affordable Health Care Act" can then be repealed with no pain at all.

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Those who feel the pain are the ones who cannot afford health care as it is, and they will continue going to the ER for temporary fixes that will cost many times what decent co9verage would cost.
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2012, 01:00:11 AM »
The eighty pound version of the "Affordable Health Care Act" can then be repealed with no pain at all.

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Those who feel the pain are the ones who cannot afford health care as it is, and they will continue going to the ER for temporary fixes that will cost many times what decent co9verage would cost.

The "Affordable Health Care Act " only assists people who have jobs, so only about half of the problem you are speaking of.

Lets back up and try again, this time trying to do something that can be understood and afforded .

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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2012, 01:04:51 AM »
Not to mention it hits the Middle Class the hardest, with higher taxes, and higher medical care costs...not to mention fewer doctors, longer waits, and reduced quality of care as physicians and helathcare providers have far more people they have to care for, and last time I checked, Government hasn't been able to extend the hours in a day to accomodate so many more
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2012, 01:24:15 AM »
Sirs,
    I would like to ask you , does the number of doctors ,nurses and medical tecnitions per capata have a direct or an indirect impact on the quality and cost of health care?

     Is there a state , regionor nation that is building up the ratio of medical experts to population in a way that we could emulate?

    Do insurance companys hold down costs , or enable inflation?