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The Other America
« on: January 29, 2007, 11:44:42 PM »
John Edwards new house

The 28,200-square-foot home also Orange County's most valuable

Guess so at 6 million.

http://carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=3848

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 11:53:04 PM »
Maybe it doesn't have indoor plumbing     ;)
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Re: The Other America
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 12:54:17 AM »
Which America is it in?

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 01:02:53 AM »
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Which America is it in?

The racist south, of course.

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 08:19:23 AM »
How about a picture of Cheney's digs?  Or Juniorbush's ranch?

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 09:44:25 AM »
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How about a picture of Cheney's digs?  Or Juniorbush's ranch?

How about a quote from either of them decrying the two Americas

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 11:11:15 AM »
BTW, I heard about this last week and I was just dumbfounded.  How moronic can it be to try running on the "Two Americas" theme of poor vs ultra-rich whilst building this monstrosity?

The only way to salvage this in my eyes, is by gathering up homeless people from that area and having the house be a shelter that teaches the homeless farming skills and provides free health and mental care.

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 11:26:20 AM »
BTW, I heard about this last week and I was just dumbfounded.

He was interviewed like a month ago by CBS, and they showcased his new house.
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Re: The Other America
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 11:28:28 AM »
BTW, I heard about this last week and I was just dumbfounded.

He was interviewed like a month ago by CBS, and they showcased his new house.

Hm, I just heard about it last week.

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2007, 11:43:03 AM »
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The 28,200-square-foot home also Orange County's most valuable

Guess so at 6 million.

Why does that prevent him from speaking about poverty and the gap between wealthy and poor in America?
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Re: The Other America
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 12:04:26 PM »
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Why does that prevent him from speaking about poverty and the gap between wealthy and poor in America?

It doesn't. But it does affect his credibility as well as limit his options on any effort to close the gap.

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 12:06:42 PM »
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It doesn't. But it does affect his credibility as well as limit his options on any effort to close the gap.

Why?
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Re: The Other America
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 12:53:28 PM »
Because it's a little hard to buy his supposed concern for the poor and attacks on the wealthy of America when he's spent $6,000,000 on a 28,200-square-foot house.
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Re: The Other America
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2007, 12:55:27 PM »
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It doesn't. But it does affect his credibility as well as limit his options on any effort to close the gap.

Why?

I'd have to agree with BT, _JS.  A campaign of the design that Edwards is using usually appeals more to the have nots than the haves.  When someone starts talking about that gap it is usually aimed at the lower end of the pay scale, especially when that candidate is a Dem.

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Re: The Other America
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2007, 01:14:43 PM »
The problem with these attitudes is that it assumes that only the poor may speak for the poor. What that tends to do is limit the possibilities for reform. The poor are generally under-represented in the media and politics, and often do not have a strong voice in society.

By saying that someone such as Edwards cannot speak of the gap between the wealthy and poor is limiting the voice of the working class. It is essentially no different than saying that a white representative cannot fairly represent a majority black district.

Labels such as "Champagne Socialist" have been around forever, but often some of the greatest strides towards progressive policies have come from those who were not impoverished. Edwards has been given the gift of a great deal of intelligence and a quality education. The fact that he has earned great wealth should not preclude him for speaking on behalf of the poor.

While you may or may not agree with him on everything, he has been derided for being an "ambulance chaser" but has in fact helped many families who would otherwise be unable to afford his services. He should be commended, in my book, for pointing to the difficulties faced by poor Americans. And if you don't think there is "another America" then you weren't paying attention when Katrina hit New Orleans.

Or do you think he should react like Barbara Bush and say " many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this, this is working very well for them?"

No, your argument is invalid. It might be nice for the impoverished to have no voice, but it is hardly fair to demand it.
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