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Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« on: November 07, 2012, 04:51:00 PM »
Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
Associated Press

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — A slim majority of Puerto Ricans sought to change their ties with the United States and become the 51st U.S. state in a non-binding referendum that would require final approval from Congress.

The two-part referendum asked whether the island wanted to change its 114-year relationship with the United States. Nearly 54 percent, or 922,374 people, sought to change it, while 46 percent, or 786,749 people, favored the status quo. Ninety-six percent of 1,643 precincts were reporting as of early Wednesday.

The second question asked voters to choose from three options, with statehood by far the favorite, garnering 61 percent. Sovereign free association, which would have allowed for more autonomy, received 33 percent, while independence got 5 percent.

President Barack Obama earlier expressed support for the referendum and pledged to respect the will of the people in the event of a clear majority.

It is unclear whether U.S. Congress will debate the referendum results or if Obama will consider the results to be a clear enough majority.

Puerto Rico's resident commissioner Pedro Pierluisi, who has championed statehood, did not return calls for comment. He received 48 percent or 874,914 votes, while his opponent, Rafael Cox Alomar, received 47 percent or 855,732 votes with 96 percent of precincts reporting.

The island is currently a U.S. territory whose inhabitants are U.S. citizens but are prohibited from voting in presidential elections. Its resident commissioner in the U.S. House also has limited voting powers.

The future of the island's political status, however, also is dependent on who governs the island.

According to partial election results, pro-statehood Gov. Luis Fortuno was ousted by a razor thin margin by an opponent who supports the island's current political status.

With 96 percent of precincts reporting, challenger Alejandro Garcia Padilla with the Popular Democratic Party received 48 percent or 870,005 votes. Fortuno, a Republican and leader of the New Progressive Party, received 47 percent or 855,325 votes.

Fortuno has not issued comment, while Garcia celebrated what he called a victory.

"I can assure you we have rescued Puerto Rico," Garcia said. "This is a lesson to those who think that the well-being of Puerto Ricans should be subjected to ideologies."

Election results also pointed to a major upset for Jorge Santini, who has been mayor of the capital of San Juan for 12 years. His opponent, Carmen Yulin Cruz, received 71,736 votes compared with Santini's 66,945 votes with 96 percent of precincts reporting.

The island's elections commission said it would resume counting votes late Wednesday morning.

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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 05:38:58 PM »
my brother went there several times in the last two years
said there are some pretty beaches and tourist enclaves
but that most of it is a third world sewer...burglar bars everywhere
the last thing we need is a bunch more poor non-english speaking people flooding in
i say dont let them be a state and send them on their own independence
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 06:24:47 PM »
Puerto Ricans are already US citizens and can enter and leave the US whenever they wish. Making Puerto Rico a state would not cause anyone to flood into the US.

The Republican Party has always been affiliated with the Statehood movement.The Democrats have been affiliated with the existing Commonwealth (Estado Libre y Asociado) status. The Independence Party rarely has got more than 15% of the vote.

Of course, Puerto Ricans would tend to vote for Democrats. Another added plus would be that Mississippi would no longer have to be the poorest state any longer, at least for a while.

Some pharma companies would lose their tax exempt status.

Puerto Rico is not a sewer at all. It is lots better off than what Cuba is now or would have been had Fidel never happened.

The US cannot throw Puerto Rico away without the consent of the people.
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 05:36:36 AM »
I like to be in America!
O.K. by me in America!
Ev'rything free in America
For a small fee in America!

Automobile in America,
Chromium steel in America,
Wire-spoke wheel in America,
Very big deal in America!

Immigrant goes to America,
Many hellos in America;
Nobody knows in America
Puerto Rico's in America!

I like the shores of America!
Comfort is yours in America!
Knobs on the doors in America,
Wall-to-wall floors in America!

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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 05:52:15 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 05:59:09 PM »
How appropriate for a country that's reaching out for more dependence in government, for its citizenry
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 06:08:19 PM »
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door (as long as they have money and speak only English)!"
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 06:23:51 PM »
why stop at PR?
lets take on everybody!
send the cargo planes!
send the cruise ships!
lets pick 'em all up....bring 'em on in!
bring in 10 million,  20 million, 50 million,
hell lets make it 100 million of "huddled masses"
ya boss dats it! juzzzz whats we needs!
get 100 million more "homeless" lined up in our failing broke schools
add 100 million more "tired" to our emergency rooms
add millions more people when we already have tons of jobless
long as we gets mo democrat votes....hell lets do it!

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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 06:30:33 PM »
Nah, we got ours, let them get theirs.

Isn't that the GOP mantra?
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 06:39:41 PM »
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door (as long as they have money and speak only English)!"

Wow....what an interesting twist.  I wonder who's advocating such an extreme position.  Perhaps H can enlighten us, since I don't see anyone opposed to legal immigration.

And no, the GOP Mantra, is come to our country, but do it legally please
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 06:46:09 PM »
Nah, we got ours, let them get theirs.Isn't that the GOP mantra?

dats what i'm saying!
open the floodgates
since it's so smart...and great
lets bring in 100 million poor and down-trodden
lets hope they dont speak english...that'd be a big bonus
give 'em all a bunch-o-"free"-stuff
let 'em "get theirs"
maybe "share everything"
sings "all we are saying is give peace a chance"
followed by "Imagine" by John Lennon
share like them OccupyWallStreeters did
ya know drinking their Starbucks, talking on their i-phones!
pooping on each other,
but screaming at dat evil old corp america
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 07:05:21 PM »
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that's what I learned from the French
then it all changed with Dien Bien Phu
the frogs went home. Who came? Guess who?
are you surprised we went insane
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businessmen never rob banks
you can sell shit and get thanks
that's what I learned from the Yanks
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men like me there have things easy
they have a lawyer and a body-guard
to the Johns there I'll sell blondes there
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cars that have bars take you there
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 07:10:04 PM »
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Sunshine on my Shoulders lyrics

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high

If I had a day that I could give you
I'd give to you a day just like today
If I had a song that I could sing for you
I'd sing a song to make you feel this way

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high

If I had a tale that I could tell you
I'd tell a tale sure to make you smile
If I had a wish that I could wish for you
I'd make a wish for sunshine all the while

Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy
Sunshine in my eyes can make me cry
Sunshine on the water looks so lovely
Sunshine almost always makes me high
Sunshine almost all the time makes me high
Sunshine almost always

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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 07:16:26 PM »
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door (as long as they have money and speak only English)!"

Wow....what an interesting twist.  I wonder who's advocating such an extreme position... 

my brother went there several times in the last two years
said there are some pretty beaches and tourist enclaves
but that most of it is a third world sewer...burglar bars everywhere
the last thing we need is a bunch more poor non-english speaking people flooding in
i say dont let them be a state and send them on their own independence

Of course, what he missed, is that they are already American citizens.
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Re: Puerto Ricans opt for statehood in referendum
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 07:21:19 PM »
So, if they're already American citizens, what's the problem?  Obtain residence within the U.S....poof, they can now vote for their favorite big government give away at tax payer expense Democrat.  Sheeeeesh
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle