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Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« on: November 15, 2012, 11:44:20 AM »
The Christian Science Monitor
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The Republicans’ failed presidential nominee has inflamed intraparty tension by blaming his loss on President Obama’s “gifts” to young voters and minorities – health coverage, contraceptive coverage in health insurance, forgiveness of interest on college loans – not any failings of his own as a candidate.

Mr. Romney made the comments Wednesday afternoon on a conference call with fundraisers and donors, a few of whom allowed reporters to listen in. Later in the day, Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) of Louisiana, new chairman of the Republican Governors Association (RGA), became “visibly agitated” at a press conference when asked about Romney’s remarks, according to Politico.


“No, I think that’s absolutely wrong,” said Governor Jindal, a rising Republican star who is Indian-American, speaking at an RGA meeting in Las Vegas. “Two points on that: One, we have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent. We need to go after every single vote.”

“And, secondly,” Jindal continued, “we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children an opportunity to be able to get a great education. … So, I absolutely reject that notion, that description. I think that’s absolutely wrong.”

Romney was echoing his infamous “47 percent” comment during a fundraiser in May – that 47 percent of the public will vote for Obama “no matter what,” because they depend on government and see themselves as victims. It may have been the most damaging gaffe of Romney’s campaign.

Obama crushed Romney among minorities – winning 93 percent of African-Americans and 71 percent of Latinos – and he won 60 percent of voters ages 18 to 29.

In his comments to donors, Romney said the Obama administration had been “very generous” to those groups.

"With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest was a big gift," Romney said, according to The New York Times. "Free contraceptives were very big with young, college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents' plan, and that was a big gift to young people.”

Romney maintained that he had focused on talking about “big issues for the whole country,” such as military strategy, foreign policy, and job creation.

Top Republicans such as Jindal, who may be contemplating a presidential run in 2016, are trying to steer the party away from blaming voters for last week’s outcome and toward a more inclusive approach to an electorate that is only growing less white with each election.

Jindal also blamed Romney’s loss on his failure to present a “vision.”

“Governor Romney’s an honorable person that needs to be thanked for his many years of public service, but his campaign was largely about his biography and his experience,” Jindal said. “And it’s a very impressive biography and very impressive set of experiences. But time and time again, biography and experience is not enough to win an election. You have to have a vision. You have to connect your policies to the aspirations of the American people. I don’t think the campaign did that, and as a result this became a contest between personalities.”

No word on what Jindal thought about comments Monday by Rep. Paul Ryan, Romney’s running mate, who told a Madison, Wis., TV station that his ticket lost because of Obama’s strength in “urban areas” – another likely reference to minorities.

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 12:23:49 PM »
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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 12:28:54 PM »
Another dumbshit post by CU.

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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 01:36:59 PM »
I like Jindal, but I would guess that Romney struck closer to the truth .

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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 01:48:37 PM »
I'm sure you believe that plane. It pains me to see how off you are so much of the time.


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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 01:54:50 PM »
Oh, the irony
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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2012, 04:44:16 PM »
I'm sure you believe that plane. It pains me to see how off you are so much of the time.


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Could you pick one or two specifics from Romneys statements that you would like to argue about?

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2012, 05:35:19 PM »
I think Romney was pretty close to accurate when he said that there were a lot of average Americans who would never vote for him. He was inaccurate to state that 47% of the people thought of themselves as "victims". All in all, it was a pretty simplistic statement. Perhaps he said it because he is simplistic, perhaps he said it because he thought that the fatcat hedge fund managers were simplistic and it is what they wanted to hear from him.

The truth is that social mobility in quite low in the US,lower than in France or Germany,and there are very few people who could benefit from Romney and Ryan's election. It was surprising that they got as many votes as they did.
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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2012, 06:46:15 PM »
Is social mobility served well by high tax rates ?

Or stifllling regulations?

Or cradle to grave protection from risk?

Or an attitude of animosity between wage grades?

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 12:33:59 AM »
It is served well by the tax structure and benefits that Europeans have, clearly.

We do not actually NEED for some old fart like Rupert Murdock to own 5 billion dollars in assets in order to have adequate news coverage, for example. Take 4.5 billions from Rupert and spread it around. It is not like he could not manage on a paltry half billion.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 01:00:42 AM »
It is served well by the tax structure and benefits that Europeans have, clearly.

We do not actually NEED for some old fart like Rupert Murdock to own 5 billion dollars in assets in order to have adequate news coverage, for example. Take 4.5 billions from Rupert and spread it around. It is not like he could not manage on a paltry half billion.

Is that why European Contrys are happy to have 20% unemployment for long periods?

I think it would help the govenment conduct its business if there were mecanisims to impoverish news media, but our constitution is supposed to prevent the government from operating that effeciently.

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 02:08:43 AM »
It is served well by the tax structure and benefits that Europeans have, clearly.

We do not actually NEED for some old fart like Rupert Murdock to own 5 billion dollars in assets in order to have adequate news coverage, for example.


That's actually an example of its not your damn business how much Rupert Murdoch owns or makes, or anyone for that matter.  No one's making you watch Fox or read the WSJ, for crying out loud.  Sheeesh, your hatred and/our jealously of successful folk is pretty tangible

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Re: Romney Shows True Colors, Asshole
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 03:24:36 AM »
Well thanks for the offer to debate Plane, however I'm quite secure in my understanding of what Romney said and more importantly didn't say. I feel no need to expend on it. The people spoke, nothing Romney says now can change that. Clearly his view of things was rejected, as it should have been. And clearly smarter people, like Bobby Jindal, understand that.


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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012, 03:56:46 AM »
I'm sure you believe that plane. It pains me to see how off you are so much of the time.

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Could you pick one or two specifics from Romneys statements that you would like to argue about?

Well thanks for the offer to debate Plane, however I'm quite secure in my understanding of what Romney said and more importantly didn't say. I feel no need to expend on it. The people spoke, nothing Romney says now can change that. Clearly his view of things was rejected, as it should have been. And clearly smarter people, like Bobby Jindal, understand that.

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Is this like the xo school of debate?  Ask a serious question and either deflect or simply ignore it all together, and just dump on ....whatever/whomever?
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2012, 10:46:48 AM »
Rupert Effing Murdock is hardly a typical example of"successful folk" and I can say any damned thing about him as i wish.

He has been a huge pain in the ass to progress in this country,and mostly for his own personal gain.

May he die tomorrow and have a glorious funeral, followed by a huge squabble between his heirs. In the cas4e of Murdock, I am rooting for the lawyers to get as much as possible of the spoils.
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