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PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« on: November 25, 2012, 12:50:25 PM »
Post Finally Digs into Growing Petraeus Scandal

By Cliff Kincaid  -   November 23, 2012
 
The Washington Post has been greatly embarrassed by the fact that its local editor Vernon Loeb was the ghost writer for the David Petraeus biography by Paula Broadwell and admits he was "clueless" about their sexual relationship. The paper is now making up for lost time.

On Thursday, the Post published an article that debunked claims by Petraeus, who was Obama's CIA director, that he had never given Broadwell classified information. The story by Carol D. Leonnig, Sari Horwitz and Anne Gearan reveals that Petraeus aides and other high-ranking military officials were often tasked by Petraeus and other top commanders to provide sensitive military documents to Broadwell.

Although some have questioned the basis for the investigation, the Post confirms that the original FBI probe uncovered the fact that Broadwell sent e-mails demonstrating "access to detailed schedules for Petraeus and [General John] Allen, which raised concern about possible national security violations."

Whether any of this information fell into the hands of America's enemies remains to be seen.

However, Attorney General Eric Holder seems to have made up his mind. He said on November 15, "We made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security."

The day before, Obama declared, "I have no evidence at this point from what I've seen that classified information was disclosed that in any way would have had a negative impact on our national security."

But the Post reports that Broadwell turned over her computer to the FBI in late summer, "and agents discovered that it contained low-level classified material." This is important because the FBI, at this time, did not inform Congress about the investigation. The Post goes on: "On Nov. 12, the FBI searched her home in Charlotte and carried away additional evidence that she had classified documents, law enforcement officials said."

Of course, this raid took place after the election, and months after the discovery of sensitive information on Broadwell's computer had already been made. The raid uncovered even more sensitive documents and the Post later acknowledged that even low-level classified records typically cannot be kept on someone's personal computer or in their home.

The story concludes, "Two days after the FBI search at her home, the Army suspended Broadwell?s security clearance."

The bottom line is that the evidence is mounting that Petraeus gave Broadwell access to classified information, either directly or through his aides.

Since the evidence of wrongdoing is mounting against Petraeus, it is important to review where this story would have been without the FBI whistleblower going outside the Bureau with news about the scandal.

The paper had previously reported that "two longtime military aides to Petraeus said that he did not intend to resign until it became clear that his extramarital affair with Broadwell would become public after the first phase of the FBI investigation of his e-mail accounts."

This, too, is significant, and justifies the decision by the FBI whistleblower to go to Republican members of the House Eric Cantor and Dave Reichert with information about the scandal. Although they did not go public with the information and even kept it from their House and Senate colleagues, they did go back to the FBI to ask what was going on with the initial inquiry. This was undoubtedly a signal to Obama?s FBI director Robert Mueller that he couldn?t keep the lid on much longer.

He was able, however, to keep the lid on until Election Day, when he went to James Clapper, director of national intelligence, with the information, and Clapper then told Petraeus he had to go. Petraeus departed after the election and the fallout from the scandal continues to get worse by the day.

Obama claimed during his news conference that he hadn't seen any damage to national security from the Petraeus affair. This position is now impossible to maintain after what the Post has reported about Petraeus aides being involved in shoveling classified and sensitive information to Broadwell.

The Post reaffirmed that some of the "closest advisers" to Petraeus, "who served with him during his last command in Iraq" said that he had "planned to stay in the job even after he acknowledged the affair to the FBI, hoping the episode would never become public."

Consider what this says about Petraeus: the top spy in the Obama Administration thought he could get away with having an extramarital affair with a woman young enough to be his daughter and that her receipt of classified information would be covered up for his benefit.

It is good that the Post is pursuing this matter. But where is Post Watergate reporter Bob Woodward? He has been appearing on various programs in recent weeks, such as Fox News Sunday and CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight, but there is no indication he wants to get to the bottom of this Obama Administration scandal. His byline is nowhere to be found.

On November 11, he was accepting a journalism award at Colby College in Maine, where he was being adored by young students for his role in the Post's Watergate coverage that brought down the presidency of Republican Richard Nixon. "We should worry the most about secret government," Woodward said.

It appears, however, that Petraeus and Broadwell were flaunting this aspect of "secret government." Neil W. McCabe of Human Events reported that they appeared together as a couple at the October 27 OSS Society Annual Dinner and "mingled as a couple at the VIP reception? before the dinner. As the general made his way around the Washington Ritz Carlton ballroom, he said, ?Broadwell followed one pace behind."

Robert Windrem of NBC News quoted one former senior U.S. intelligence official who attended the event as saying, "It's mind-boggling that she could be so reckless as to show up at high-profile events like this, shortly after learning the FBI was investigating their affair."

Perhaps this is because she and Petraeus thought their secret was safe from public disclosure.




http://www.aim.org/aim-column/post-finally-digs-into-growing-petraeus-scandal/
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 01:33:22 PM »
Low level classified information, of course, could be weather reports or rental car license plates or companies.

Broadwell was not a good choice for a biographer because (a) she had never written a biography,and (b) she needed a ghost writer to write this one.

I find it amusing that Petraeus was the hero of the right wingers when some silly newspaper rhymed his name with "betray us", but now he is seen by the same geniuses as Obama's stooge.

It seems to me that he was a better than average soldier who improperly let himself be led astray by nookie. I doubt that any serious harm was done to the nation's security.

Broadwell and Kelley come across as jealous dumb groupies.

Romney would not have won had this all come out before the election. We are LOTS better off with President Obama than the Mormon Tycoon who dislikes 47% of us.
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 02:33:51 PM »
Yes and no REAL harm was done at the Watergate break in either.

It is not small potatoes if the president is involved in a coverup.

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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 03:51:12 PM »
There is no cover up and this is of minimal importance to anyone.

Watergate was a plan by Nixon to spy on the Democrats to subvert the election.

I have no idea why the ratbag right keeps harping on this.  It is stupid as the secession crap. Poor losers blowing smoke.
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »
I find it amusing that Petraeus was the hero of the right wingers when some silly newspaper rhymed his name with "betray us",
but now he is seen by the same geniuses as Obama's stooge.

I don't find it odd that rightwingers thought Petraeus "a hero" when he wasnt "betraying us"
and stopped seeing him as a "hero"when he actually did "betray us" and his wife and family.
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 04:01:14 PM »
He did not betray the nation at all. He simply allowed himself to be seduced.

I would say that he has done far more good for the country than harm.

Prudes are easily scandalized.
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2012, 04:51:03 PM »
He did not betray the nation at all. He simply allowed himself to be seduced.

I would say that he has done far more good for the country than harm.

Prudes are easily scandalized.

So now the "Surge" was a good idea?

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2012, 08:26:14 PM »
It appears that it was a good idea, as opposed to what would have happened had they not surged.Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan was handled well by the Bushites.
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2012, 10:08:00 PM »
It appears that it was a good idea, as opposed to what would have happened had they not surged.Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan was handled well by the Bushites.

Was the surge not a Bush initiative?

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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 01:18:20 AM »
Bush wouldn't have known a surge from a purge. Secondly, the so-called "surge" didn't have anything to do with anything. What changed things in Iraq was a jump in assassinations. That was initiated by and enacted by Petraeus and McChrystal.
 

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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 05:09:13 AM »
riiiiiiight
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 07:24:54 AM »
Quote
Watergate was a plan by Nixon to spy on the Democrats to subvert the election.

I don't recall any smoking guns indicating Nixon had knowledge of the Watergate Plan prior to the break in.

Perhaps you can enlighten.

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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 11:27:37 AM »
I read a dozen books about Watergate, and that is my impression.

Nixon told Haldeman, Haldeman ordered the Cubans to do the espionage. Nixon dknew they were dirty tricksters, but he did not want to know the specifics.

It hardly matters.Watergate will never be changed, and the Petraeus affair is a minor flap where national security is involved.
 
Comparing the two is just a waste of time.Symmetry is not required.
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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 11:32:18 AM »
I read a dozen books about Watergate, and that is my impression.

Nixon told Haldeman, Haldeman ordered the Cubans to do the espionage. Nixon dknew they were dirty tricksters, but he did not want to know the specifics.

It hardly matters.Watergate will never be changed, and the Petraeus affair is a minor flap where national security is involved.
 
Comparing the two is just a waste of time.Symmetry is not required.


Of course it is not symetrical.
The Bengazi affair is worse for including national security , international affairs and death.
Not to say that Watergate was not serious, the president also should be subject to the law.
But that Bengazigate is worse seems indisputable.

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Re: PetraeusGate Cover-up Until election Was Over
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 11:45:44 AM »
That is 100% total bullshit.

Only an imbecile would believe that.
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