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Perception is reality
« on: December 04, 2012, 04:12:58 PM »
"Perception is reality, so "reality" holds Congressional Republicans more responsible for the impasse than any other actor in this interminable saga.  Just look at the polls.  This is why many liberals seem positively giddy about the prospect of cliff diving.  Taxes would go up on everyone, the military would receive a dangerous haircut, the economy would take a big hit, and an incensed electorate would point the finger at Republicans -- even if Democrats were the true culprits.  Republicans have again and again come to the negotiating table in an attempt to head off this eventuality.  They've come up empty at every turn.  This latest offer is fair-minded and earnest by any reasonable standard, and it's decent (if incomplete and ultimately inadequate) on substance.  But substance doesn't amount to anything if you can't win the argument in the court of public opinion. 

Thus, we're stuck with two political parties gripped by contrasting flaws. 

Democrats are masterful manipulators and possess a penchant for effective political positioning. (Granted, having an obsequious, partisan media in your back pocket makes this task easier). On the other hand, they offer precious little on policy. To wit, they haven't passed a budget in three years, despite their statutory obligation to do so.  Power is their ultimate end, not governance.

Republicans, conversely, have been churning out plans, policy proposals, compromises (and budgets) -- all while laboring under the apparent assumption that simply engaging in the difficult business of governing will somehow be sufficient.  It won't, and it's not. 

Facing an opposing party president who is actively stumping for his agenda at public rallies -- replete with all the accoutrements and optics of a campaign stop -- Republicans wrote a letter, and leaked it to the media.   Various media scribes dutifully wrote articles about the missive, Democrats predictably pooh-poohed it, and less than 24 hours later, the debate has careened back into its familiar dead-end rut.  The Left is content to float along this path because they know they hold the public relations high ground.  It's Republicans who need to change the game, and sending a letter simply won't cut it.  Not even close"
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 09:03:04 PM »
  If we cannot do what is right , is that a good excuse to do what is wrong?

   No I don't think that the Republicans should emulate the Democrats , they should instead attempt to educate the public and hope that truth has some advantage over demagogery.

    If it doesn't work, it will at least do no new harm.

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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 09:55:54 AM »
Republicans as educators is rather like mooses teaching docents for a porcelain museum.

What the Democrats have failed to achieve in recent years is almost entirely the fault of idiotic Republican'ts.
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 11:11:30 AM »
That's actually a pretty close to accurate statement, since Demawonts have grand designs on what they want to achieve.  If not for the GOP, this country would be far more screwed then it already is, with an even bigger, more massive Federal Government, complete with trillions more in debt & higher unemployment

So, yea, that is the fault of the GOP and the idiotic electorate that put them in a position to stop Obama and the Dems, in 2010.   
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 05:29:39 PM »
The best the GOP could come up with was Mitt the Tycoon. He was no great shakes, but he was certainly better than the Newtster, the philandering pizzaman, the ranting fundie woman and the papist sweatervester. 

The time of the WORMs (White Old Rich Men) running this country are over and done with.
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 07:11:09 PM »
Feel better?  I hope so, since there was not one shred of substance or relevance in the post, so perhaps the only reason you posted it was to ......give you some form of warm fuzzies, I suppose.  Hope it worked
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 07:49:54 PM »
All I said was that Romney was the bets of a really rotten bunch. I am glad that he lost and can now retire to play with his car elevator and make plans to be the next Mormon Prophet.

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 08:30:48 PM »
All you said was deflective gibberish, as it relates to who actually is obstructing things getting done in DC.  Hint...its BOTH, not just your hated Republicants
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 03:07:44 AM »
Doncha hate when one's words come back to haunt yas? 

Obama 2011: We can get $1.2 trillion in revenues without raising tax rates

So, in other words, the GOP is acquiescing to precisely what Obama wanted before, when the GOP was set on no new taxes.  But now, his own proposal isn't enough, and yet its the GOP that's "blocking any progress"?  Don't worry though, the MSM will steer clear of this unsightly duplicity
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 09:46:51 AM »
Do you doubt that the Mormons are eyeing the Mittster for their next prophet?
Do you deny that he has seven houses and an elevator for his many vehicles, including "a couple of his wife's Cadillacs"?

Again, Mitt was the best that this sorry bunch of sycophants to the Oligarchy could do, and he was tried by the people and found wanting,and summarily rejected.

More people voted for Democrats in the House than voted for Republican'ts. They only have a majority because of the smaller population of some congressional districts.
 
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 09:48:14 AM »
You got an URL for that nonsense Sirs?

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 10:00:56 AM »
As far as Bsb, it's a video.  What's any url have to do with anything?  You implying it's a forged video

As far as Xo, why do you keep trying to deflect by bringing in Mitt?  What does he have to do with anything, such as Obama's intellectual dishonesty, which is currently at the forefront of this thread?
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 10:11:53 AM »
Because no matter how deceptive you think the President is, he is far less so than the idiot opposition.

I do not actually give even a small, narrow rat's patootie what you perceive is "at the forefront of this thread".

Will Mitt make Prophet? Will he get to talk to God? How could that not be more important than yet another feeble sirs screed about sirs demented view of fairness?
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 11:24:39 AM »
Because no matter how deceptive you think the President is, he is far less so than the idiot opposition.

Yet, it's the Dems that keep obstructing, when not outright ignoring legisation after legislation, after legislation, that has passed the house, now with even a compromise that mirrors exactly what Obama was wanting not more than a year ago.  But it's the supposed "idiot opposition" and asanine injections of the prophet Mitt that you want to salivate over.

Hey, whatever floats your boat.  As long as it keeps giving you those warm fuzzie, go for it
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Re: Perception is reality
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 12:21:11 AM »
Because no matter how deceptive you think the President is, he is far less so than the idiot opposition.

Yet, it's the Dems that keep obstructing, when not outright ignoring legisation after legislation, after legislation, that has passed the house, now with even a compromise that mirrors exactly what Obama was wanting not more than a year ago.  But it's the supposed "idiot opposition" and asanine injections of the prophet Mitt that you want to salivate over.

Hey, whatever floats your boat.  As long as it keeps giving you those warm fuzzie, go for it


You were supposed to be distracted from your main point by now .