NRA Was There to Help Blacks Defend Themselves From KKK Democrats

[sirs]

What you're referencing is something already considered illegal.  He was NOT LEGALLY allowed to carry one, so its irrelevent redundacy to then rant that Once an idiot has a gun, he does not need a f%cking permit to go on a spree and murder people.  That's already illegal.  The murdering is then on top of that illegal act

The permit is RELEVANT to the ongoing leftist claptrap of how folks shouldn't be allowed a permit to LEGALLY carry a weapon.  You tried to pull it with the now debunked claim of yours that some mass shooters have had permits.  In fact, if someone had a CCW on that subway, it's likely the only person who would have been killed would have been Ferguson

Moron

[Christians4LessGvt]

The permit is IRRELEVANT to public safety.

XO how can it be "IRRELEVANT" when we have
so many people now with permits but very, very, few incidents?

The permit must do a decent job of "weeding out" the nutcases you speak about?

[sirs]

D'OH....C, stop throwing logic in Xo's direction.  It might spring a sprocket....or he might curse you out       

[Xavier_Onassis]

XO how can it be "IRRELEVANT" when we have
so many people now with permits but very, very, few incidents?

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There have been around SIXTY mass shooting incidents since the Gaby Giffords shooting.

Guns are readily available at gun shows, and the NRA is all for such unrecorded purchases.

[sirs]

XO how can it be "IRRELEVANT" when we have
so many people now with permits but very, very, few incidents?==================================================
There have been around SIXTY mass shooting incidents since the Gaby Giffords shooting.

And WHO of those folks had permits to carry.....THAT's the relevant part here, per your claims of some mass shooters have had permits, that Cu4 and myself have been inquiring about

[Plane]

Once an idiot has a gun, he does not need a f%cking permit to go on a spree and murder people.The permit is IRRELEVANT to public safety.

I agree mostly , but I would add that all the restrictions on gun buying are simularly limited in effectiveness.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If you cannot buy a gun, then the only other way to get one is to steal it.

The more guns there are in circulation in a given country, the more easy it is likely to be to steal one.

Possession of a guns and ammo is what makes guns dangerous.

Permits are even less relevant to endangerment than a license plate is to driving, because the plate must be visible, while the permit is not.

[sirs]

If you cannot buy a gun, then the only other way to get one is to steal it.

Ummm.....yea.....and?  Those would be the 2 ways to aquire a gun, 1 legal and 1 illegal.  Unless you make it yourself.  So?       
 

The more guns there are in circulation in a given country, the more easy it is likely to be to steal one.

Umm....hypothetically yea.....and?

Possession of a guns and ammo is what makes guns dangerous.

NO....the use of guns by folks who are intent hurting/killing someone makes guns dangerous.  No different than the use of car or the use of a baseball bat to hurt/kill someone makes them dangerous.  Simply possessing one, legally, does not. 

Permits are even less relevant to endangerment than a license plate is to driving, because the plate must be visible, while the permit is not.

Then why did YOU find it relevant enough to try and connect them to mass murderers, when you have yet to provide 1 example of a permitted mass murderer??  Not to mention that the whole notion of a permit to carry is so the bad guy doesn't know you have one.  It'd be idiocy to go around with your permit exposed for all to see.  Might as well paint a target on yourself

[Xavier_Onassis]

What a caricter! Just a big ball of hatred.

What would the law look like that would have made him safe to be around?

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If he had been unable to obtain a gun, he would surely have been less dangerous. It would be really hard to kill that many people with even a really large, sharp knife.

I imagine that Japanese gun laws would have prevented him from killing so many people.

[sirs]

What a caricter! Just a big ball of hatred.

Deflection alert.      How the hell is support for everyone's right to possess a firearm, if they exercise that right, tantamount to "ball of hatred"??  (this should be interesting)  Nice spelling, by the way, professor

What would the law look like that would have made him safe to be around?

Something like Nazi Germany perhaps

If he had been unable to obtain a gun, he would surely have been less dangerous.

Yea......and?  Are you again trying to trample on everyone's right to possess a firearm, because some psychopaths out there might used them to try and kill??  Where's your call to ban knives, baseball bats, cars, and don't forget chainsaws

It would be really hard to kill that many people with even a really large, sharp knife.

Hard, but just as dangerous to the person(s) with the pointy end of the knife stuck into them

I imagine that Japanese gun laws would have prevented him from killing so many people.

I Imagine that UK Gun bans would not have.  and don't think you're getting off the hook with your permitted mass murderers crack, that spawned this whole tangent

[Xavier_Onassis]

What do you mean "getting off the hook"?

Mass murderers- DOZENS of them - have acquired guns with ease in the US and have killed hundreds,and the idiotic NRA and morons like you support laws that made it possible, either by allowing so many guns to be in circulation or that gun shows make ammo and guns available to these murderers.

I have no responsibility for this at all.

Bottom line: stupid sirs and the idiot NRA enable mass murder in the US.

And you were the fool that started this by claiming that the NRA helped Blacks get their civil rights by helping them get guns. A totally bogus claim.

[sirs]

What do you mean "getting off the hook"?

Your rather transparent effort to lump mass murderers with folks who have legally aquired permits to legally carry a weapon, was shot down with your own "best example"

Mass murderers- DOZENS of them - have acquired guns with ease in the US and have killed hundreds

With "ease' is far more likely "illegally"

and the idiotic NRA and morons like you support laws that made it possible, either by allowing so many guns to be in circulation or that gun shows make ammo and guns available to these murderers.

2nd amendment gurantees the right to bear arms.  Sorry if you don't like that right.  "So many" is not what kills.  Killers are what kills

I have no responsibility for this at all.

Who ever claimed you did?

Bottom line: stupid sirs and the idiot NRA enable mass murder in the US.

Actually, given current facts & reality, I have a higher credibility in claiming that "stupid xo and like minds" enable more people to be murdered by supporting efforts to disarm those who otherwise legally aquire their firearms and follow current law

[BSB]

It's very simple. Guns, used improperly, are a problem. All you have you have to do is read the paper every day to see how much improper use of firearms there is. That is OUR problem. The problem isn't over there somewhere, it's everybody's problem. Therefore if you're a responsible citizen you take this into account if you're a gun owner. Carrying a weapon around when the need is no more then protection against that very rare possibility is not acting responsibly, period. In fact it's dumb. We're not in Vietnam in 1967.

(Now, CU, I'm not talking about the Texas brush. I have no problem with someone carrying a gun in that kind of situation. If I lived in Texas, and spent time in the brush, I'd have a nice Ruger wheel gun.) 


BSB

[BSB]

Official: 27 dead in Conn. school shooting
By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN
Associated Press / December 14, 2012

NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school Friday left 27 people dead, including 18 children, an official said.

http://www.skweezer.com/s.aspx?q=http://www.boston.com/news/education/2012/12/14/official-dead-conn-school-shooting/KM9WtTx8sSYd8agMntLHvN/story.html

[sirs]

It's very simple. Guns, used improperly, are a problem.

So are cars, so are power tools, so are baseball bats

All you have you have to do is read the paper every day to see how much improper use of firearms there is.

Want to guess how many car related deaths there are compared to gun deaths??  Want to be reminded that guns SAVE more lives than they take.  Want to be reminded that violent crime is coming DOWN in the U.S., even with this supposed gun culture problem, while countries like the UK watch their violent crime going up with the use of guns, which are banned?? 

Ignorance of guns and their use in defensive situations......That is YOUR problem.