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Obama's Feckless Leadership
« on: January 16, 2013, 06:55:19 PM »
Prop-a-palooza: The Use and Abuse of Kiddie Human Shields

The president of the United States will release a binder full of new gun-control executive orders on Wednesday. Instead of standing alone, bearing full responsibility for the imperial actions he is about to take, President Obama will surround himself with an audience of kids who wrote to him after the Newtown, Conn., school massacre. This is the most cynical in Beltway theatrical staging -- a feckless attempt to invoke "For the Children" immunity by hiding behind them.

What has happened to the deliberative process in this country? Public debate in Washington has deteriorated into Sesame Street sing-a-longs. We are already inundated with logical fallacies: argumentum ad populum (it's popular, therefore it's true); argumentum ad nauseam (if you repeat it often enough, it'll become truth); argumentum ad hominem (sabotage the person, sabotage the truth); and argumentum ad verecundiam (if my favorite authority says it's true, it's true).

To that list we can now add "argumentum ad filium": If politicians appeal to the children, it's unassailably good and true. The Obama White House has shamelessly employed this kiddie human shield strategy at every turn to blunt substantive criticism and dissent.

During the legislative battle that rammed the federal health care takeover through Capitol Hill and down our throats, President Obama and the Democrats piled up youth props around them like bunker sandbags. Nancy Pelosi wore babies like Wonder Woman bracelets, one on each arm, to deflect troublesome questions about costs and constitutional concerns.

Obamacare stage managers paraded 11-year-old Marcelas Owens of Washington state in front of the cameras to make the case for the half-trillion-dollar tax hike plan. The boy's "qualifications"? Owens' mother, Tiffany, had died of pulmonary hypertension at the age of 27. A single mother of three, she lost her job as a fast-food manager and lost her insurance. She received emergency care and treatment throughout her illness, but died in 2007.

As I noted at the time, Washington state already offered a plethora of existing government assistance programs to laid-off and unemployed workers like Marcelas' mom. For some reason, unexplained by the family or its zealous exploiters, she didn't bother to enroll. Moreover, she died nine months after she reportedly lost her health insurance. By the time she lost her coverage through her employer, she was apparently already in dire health straits. It's not clear that additional doctor visits in the subsequent months would have prevented her death. Nor did Obamacare do anything to address very real flaws with our employer-sponsored health care system.

Young Marcelas admitted he didn't understand health insurance reform and didn't "think it's anyone's fault" that his mom died. No matter. Big government-by-anecdote doesn't need the anecdotes to be true or the solutions to do anything effective to solve our problems.

The intellectual infantilization of politics and public policy is nothing new, of course. The Clintons engaged in one of the most notorious examples of poster child abuse involving an ailing 7-year-old girl named Jennifer Bush. Her mother, Kathleen, wrote to the White House about the agonizing decision to "choose between purchasing groceries for the week to feed your family or buying needed medications for your chronically ill child." Her gall bladder, appendix and fragments of her intestines had been removed in a desperate attempt to diagnose her mystery sickness.

Coached by her overbearing mother, Jennifer gave the Clintons a lucky silver dollar "to bring you good luck so everyone can have good insurance." She dutifully told the press: "I pray every night that I can get better -- and that everyone can have insurance." Hillary trotted the family all over Capitol Hill for photo ops and press conferences on behalf of her health insurance mandate proposals.

Two hundred hospital visits, $2 million in medical bills later and two years after Hillary propped her up, doctors discovered that the only thing wrong with little Jennifer was that her mother had been starving and exploiting her while splurging on trips, motorcycles and home remodeling. Mrs. Bush was sentenced to five years in prison on two counts of aggravated child abuse and welfare fraud.

From health care to gun control, the left has perfected this fallacious art of prop-a-palooza -- the well-being of the children and national discourse be damned. Political vultures in Washington refuse to do the one thing that might actually benefit the children they recklessly use and abuse as fodder:

Grow up.
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Re: Obama's Feckless Leadership
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 10:42:52 PM »
The president of the United States will release a binder full of new gun-control executive orders on Wednesday.
Instead of standing alone, bearing full responsibility for the imperial actions he is about to take,
President Obama will surround himself with an audience of kids




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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 10:56:39 PM »
It is amusing to see you waste your time on nonsense
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Re: Obama's Feckless Leadership
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 11:04:33 PM »
SIRS....was there a single directive that President Obama announced
today that would have prevented the tragedy at Sandy Hook?
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 11:14:43 PM »
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That commercial is true in all its factual content , but it is graceless and mean.

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Re: Obama's Feckless Leadership
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 03:25:44 AM »
SIRS....was there a single directive that President Obama announced
today that would have prevented the tragedy at Sandy Hook?


Nope, not a one.  You can always tell if legislation, or in this case, an executive order, is ideologically agenda driven vs actually needed, if the legislation/order in question would have done nothing to have prevented what the legislation/order was so rushed as needed in the 1st place

Heard another analogy today, which has probably been around for a while, but definately applicable.  It's cotton candy....all sugary and sweet, with lots of air, but after quite a bit of it, hands get sticky, and you get sick to your stomach
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 02:40:57 PM »
Gov. Rick Perry released the following statement regarding President Obama's executive actions:

"The Vice President's committee was appointed in response to the tragedy at Newtown, but very few of his recommendations have anything to do with what happened there.

"Guns require a finger to pull the trigger. The sad young man who did that in Newtown was clearly haunted by demons and no gun law could have saved the children in Sandy Hook Elementary from his terror.

"There is evil prowling in the world - it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds. As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be. Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice. Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.

"In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally. The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president."

Statement by Gov. Perry on President Obama’s Executive Actions
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Re: Obama's Feckless Leadership
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 04:05:55 PM »
no gun law could have saved the children in Sandy Hook Elementary from his terror.

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If his mother had not owned the weapons he used, he could not have used them, it is pretty obvious.

So are you going to defend her right to own those weapons? Do you favor the police returning the weapons to her, now that she is obviously in greater danger because of what her son did? Do you support her buying another snazzy assault rifle and laying in several thousand rounds of ammo, so she can practice at the local gun range?
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Re: Obama's Feckless Leadership
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 04:17:53 PM »
no gun law could have saved the children in Sandy Hook Elementary from his terror.
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If his mother had not owned the weapons he used, he could not have used them, it is pretty obvious.

So now, not only are you trying to claim he couldn't have stolen them elsewhere, or merely stole different weapons to use, the mother's legal ability to have purchased them in the 1st place should have been prevented?? 


So are you going to defend her right to own those weapons?

Absolutely.  It's called the 2nd amendment to the Constitution of the United States.  You should read it sometime


Do you favor the police returning the weapons to her, now that she is obviously in greater danger because of what her son did?

I believe she was the 1st person killed


Do you support her buying another snazzy assault rifle and laying in several thousand rounds of ammo, so she can practice at the local gun range?

A) it wasn't a military assault rifle, as they are already banned.  Been so for decades now
B) If she were alive, I sure as hell would.  As many rounds as she felt needed
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 07:57:48 PM »
Then you are just hopeless. That silly woman had to know that her son was nuts and still was unable from keeping him from grabbing the guns and killing all those children.

In your world, massacres are inevitable and some dingbat's right to dangerous weapons is more important than the lives of those children.

I have read the second amendment and see nothing about how either this maniac or his mother were part of any "well-regulated militia".

I do know that the second Amendment referred to single shot black powder weapons.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 08:32:21 PM »
Then you are just hopeless. That silly woman had to know that her son was nuts and still was unable from keeping him from grabbing the guns and killing all those children.

The level of ignorance, you can display in such a short paragrapgh is astounding.  And I don't use ignorance as some slur, I use it as its defined, illinformed/uninformed.  Now it's the mothers fault, not just for having a gun, but for failing to deterime how psychotic & dangerous her son was?? 

In my world, there's freedom, freedom to make choices, freedom to make bad choices, freedom to be stupid & say stupid things, like all teabaggers are racist/fascist.  In my world, the 2nd amendment is as clear as rainwater.....the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.  Your issue is with who shouldn't have access to firearms, which is a legitimate issue, and one I so wish you would focus on.  But instead you just want to punish everyone, by infringing on their rights, in some vain effort to keep the psychotics from doing what they're going to do anyway.  It's analogus to your punishing rich people with more taxes, because dammit, they're rich and don't need the money...so says you.

NOTHING that is being proposed via Obama's executive orders or the asinine psuedo-assault weapon ban, would have prevented what happened at Sandy Hook.  So, let's try to work on some proposals that actually WOULD have, without infringing on a right, that SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED upon.  Are you game?

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Re: Obama's Feckless Leadership
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 08:34:52 PM »
"Guns require a finger to pull the trigger.

why the hell don't we ban fingers!
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 08:36:58 PM »
Then you are just hopeless. That silly woman had to know that her son was nuts and still was unable from keeping him from grabbing the guns and killing all those children.

In your world, massacres are inevitable and some dingbat's right to dangerous weapons is more important than the lives of those children.

I have read the second amendment and see nothing about how either this maniac or his mother were part of any "well-regulated militia".

I do know that the second Amendment referred to single shot black powder weapons.

In your world massacres are also inevitable.

Look at the proposed new laws , nothing there that would prevent the Newton shooting .

What the NRA proposes , you ight find distastefull , but an armed person there would have had a chance of making a positive diffrence.

 The School was already a gun free zone , and making the gun free zone wider and deeper won't make it any safer .

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 08:57:00 PM »
If the maniac had been armed with the sort of weapon the men who wrote the Second Amendment had in mind, namely a cap-and-ball, black powder flintlock or musket, most of the children and teachers would have been able to flee.

He certainly was not a member of a "well-regulated militia", either.
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