The Right Starts Down the Long Road of Surrender

[BT]

I don't think it is that hopeless. I just don't think the the American Public is stupid enough to buy all the propaganda spring forth from the likes of Steve Kroftt and that 60 minutes ad he did for the current President and a likely candidate for the 2016 race. I wonder if the FEC will check to make sure that Obama lists that show as an in kind donation on his campaign disclosures.

 

[sirs]

They bought it in Nov, in the face of overwhelming economic & foreign policy facts.  But I'll try to stay optimistic       

[BSB]

"Kitchen table issues like fiscal responsibility are more important than this little hill. Remember immigration laws are relatively new"

Ah huh, and everything's fine on main street is it?

If you have an interest in who's in the White House you better pay attention to immigration because no one is going to sit in the oval office without the Latino vote. And they vote by how you view immigration.


BSB

[Plane]

How many generations do immagrants remain loyal to the old country?

Only a few of us are not decendants of immagrants, Latinos will want to shut the door also, when they also feel the draft.

[BT]

Every election has it's favorite interest group that the pols cater to with last minute declarations in order to win elections. Did Obama finally coming out in favor of gay marriage convince one state to change it's laws? Did the declaration just prior to the elction that he wouldn't deport any dream act constituents change long established INS practice?

What did he do for blacks, i forget, was being historic enough?

Nah Romney ran a lousy campaign. He got smug and it showed.

Do hispanics want special status or do they simply want the chance to earn a better life.
I think the latter.

[BSB]

If you don't get the Latino vote you don't get elected.  That's what this bipartisanship regarding immigration by the Republicans is all about.

Catch up BT. You're lost in the woods along with Sirs.

BSB

[BT]

Catch up? I'm two steps ahead of you.

These are no longer the days of tammany hall.

Let's see what happens when the black caucus interests conflict with the hispanic caucus interests.

Que pasa, bro?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Let's see what happens when the black caucus interests conflict with the hispanic caucus interests.

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I doubt that this will happen, since nearly all their interests are identical.

[BSB]

BT, you took a math course at some point?

Presidential nominee - Latino vote = looking for a private sector job.

BSB
 

[BT]

I doubt that this will happen, since nearly all their interests are identical.

Are they?

What interests do they have in common that seperates them from say, new england lobstermen?

[BT]

Bush got 35 and 40% of the latino vote when he ran.

Romney just didn't appeal to them.

[Plane]

Let's see what happens when the black caucus interests conflict with the hispanic caucus interests.

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I doubt that this will happen, since nearly all their interests are identical.

If they want the same thing , and there isn't enough to go around , that is a conflict.

[Xavier_Onassis]

What interests do they have in common that seperates them from say, new england lobstermen?

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They are not White, they are not in an occupation that has been passed down for generations, and they do not eat much lobster or live in New England.

[BSB]

"Bush got 35 and 40% of the Latino vote when he ran.

Romney just didn't appeal to them. "

And Bush got elected and Romney did not. So the Republican party is now currying favor with the Latino community by changing its position on immigration. Simple as that.

BSB 

   

[Xavier_Onassis]

I think that it is pretty clear that the composition of the Hispanic community (and the rest of the immigrant community as well) has changed since 2000. Many of the older members have died, many younger immigrants have come of age and many more recent immigrants have started to participate in the political process. Poor Romney could not get even a majority of the Cuban vote in Florida. Of course, Romney is very similar to the grotesquely rich elites that have run countries like El Salvador, Venezuela, Argentina and Chile.

They sucked up all the money and resources there were to suck up and caused the unending poverty of these countries.