The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless

[BT]

Of course you didn't.

[BSB]

Sirs "Personally, I'll give the innocent child the benefit of the doubt, especially considering the many families that would perfectly wish to adopt and love them....for their entire lifetime"

Who says the mother is going to put the child up for adoption? I suspect over 90% of unloved, unwanted, children are NOT put up for adoption. Instead they wind up in prison, on drugs, uneducated, and miserable.


BSB

[BSB]

"But for the pro-Abortion the "best" is pretty much what they already have, have they any motive for compromise?"

There is no best when it comes to abortion. Only varying amounts of pain, confusion, depression, and disappointment. As for compromise? How the hell do you compromise? Have a semi-abortion?

BSB

[sirs]

No, you either give the child up for adoption or keep it yourself.  There's your compromise

[Plane]

If your logic is perfect.
Then no one has moral authority to have an abortion.
Certainly not to perform one.

I have never claimed my logic to be perfect.

But if the decision maker has the belief that the fetus has not achieved personhood, then using secular reasoning she is within her rights to make the decision that best serves her belief system. And that decision will weigh on her as much as the decision to give a child to adoption often weighs on the birth mother, or not.

When a fetus achieves personhood is debatable i say viability others say conception. And so it goes.

But as a male i don't believe i have the final say as to whether a woman aborts or not, even if it from my own seed. And i don't believe the government should be directly or indirectly funding this elective surgery in any way shape or form.

As a Male you and I have a unique and singular oppurtunity to choose.
By abstenence, or by otherwise preventing conception.
At all times past this point , our obligation is complete,total , but our right to choose otherwise is gone.

And this is widely seen as an Advantage?

[BT]

And this is widely seen as an Advantage?

Are we talking about having sex or procreation? I don't believe they are one and the same.

[Plane]

And this is widely seen as an Advantage?

Are we talking about having sex or procreation? I don't believe they are one and the same.

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How much are they not relivant to each other?

Neither Men nor Women can ensure that they will have procreation.

Either or both can forget responsibility .

When a child is concieved responsibility devolves on a man leagally , his responsibility starts right away.

Isn't this proper?

[Xavier_Onassis]

The man does not know whether he has caused the pregnancy or not. The woman always knows that she had a hand in it.

That is why she has the right  to end it.