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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #105 on: February 10, 2013, 03:57:43 PM »
....or choice to not have sex, or to purchase my own Birth control, if I did, and didn't want children.  Wow, what a concept...Choice...Free Will...and no innocent dies
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« Reply #106 on: February 10, 2013, 04:53:56 PM »
no birth control is 100% effective.

I am saying that a woman's decision is absolute. You say you want to control her body. That is the difference,
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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #107 on: February 10, 2013, 06:03:44 PM »
And I am saying that abortion is the killing of an innocent unborn child.  The woman has a choice to do ANYTHING she wants, so no, I have no interest in controlling anyone's body.  She can choose to do anything......except abortion, which again is why this issue is about abortion
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« Reply #108 on: February 10, 2013, 06:15:54 PM »
Who says the child is INNOCENT?

The Holy Mother Church teaches that all are born in sin!

From the stench of the diaper to the reek of the shroud, yes, the Church says that is humanity.
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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #109 on: February 10, 2013, 09:21:25 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on February 10, 2013, 02:01:26 PM
No one is for compulsory abortion.

It is about the RIGHT of a woman to make decisions about her own life for herself.

Do you have a nutral position on Slavery or Murder .

As long as there is little danger that you will be involved , why not be nutral?
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« Reply #110 on: February 10, 2013, 11:08:06 PM »
I am against both.
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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #111 on: February 10, 2013, 11:54:19 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on February 10, 2013, 11:08:06 PM
I am against both.

For no apparent reason.
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« Reply #112 on: February 10, 2013, 11:56:04 PM »
Not apparent to you, which does not surprise me a bit.
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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #113 on: February 11, 2013, 12:48:32 AM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on February 10, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
no birth control is 100% effective.

I am saying that a woman's decision is absolute. You say you want to control her body. That is the difference,

No.

A woman should have primary right and choice over her body, no question.

Just as you should, but if you use your body to interact with another human being that other human also has rights.

When a person has a right to make a choice , they make the choice and accept the responsibility that making the choice creates.
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« Reply #114 on: February 11, 2013, 01:01:54 AM »
Again, you want the government to impose laws upon that woman.I do not.
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« Reply #115 on: February 11, 2013, 01:04:28 AM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on February 10, 2013, 06:15:54 PM
Who says the child is INNOCENT?

What crime has it committed??  What sin has it committed??  There in lies your answer

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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #116 on: February 11, 2013, 01:13:37 AM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on February 11, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
Again, you want the government to impose laws upon that woman.I do not.

That does seem to be a quandary for the small government types.
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« Reply #117 on: February 11, 2013, 01:14:06 AM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on February 11, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
Again, you want the government to impose laws upon that woman.I do not.

Does this government not impose laws upon the woman constantly?

Taxes for instance?

Are women exempt from having laws imposed on them?

The complete set of laws that apply to women is a liabrary too large to carry with a dump truck.

You want Women to be exempted from law?

Women do not need the right to kill their children, or should men have this same right?
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« Reply #118 on: February 11, 2013, 01:26:21 AM »
Men are not told whether or not they must father children. This whole thing is about controlling the lives of women.

This does not have one goddamn thing to do with taxes.

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Re: The measure of a decent human being is how he or she treats the defenseless
« Reply #119 on: February 11, 2013, 01:54:41 AM »
And no one is trying to "control" the woman.  She can do any damn thing she wants, and with who she wants, and how ever many times she wants. 

Just don't kill any innocent unborn child is all.  Otherwise, party on
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