Hartford Convention of 1814

[Plane]

You could ask Joe the Plumber, but he seems to have given up on his plan to buy out his boss and become hugely wealthy. He first mentioned this during the campaign over four years ago.

I suppose that he has to die for you to admit that he was just daydreaming in the first place.

Name for me a business of any size or type in the USA that did not start as just such a dream.

One thing is certain: NOTHING that President Obama has said or done has prevented Joe the Plumber from carrying out his plan. He is the only one responsible for whatever outcome there has been.

The President is in the middle of producing wrenching changes, no reason to think that any of these changes are good for business . The economy he has presided over so far has been halting and slow , if the housing market recovers plumbers will have more business.

His last plan was to run for Congress. He ran as a tea partier and lost miserably.

More than half of all canadates for Congress loose , I am somewhat sorry that Plumbers are not as well represented in Congress as lawyers are, perhaps few are willing to take the pay cut.

[Xavier_Onassis]

You should read the screeds that Joe thw Plumber has written since his fifteen minutes expired.

Even crazy old McCain has disowned him.

Joe gave up plumbing before President Obama was elected, by the way.

[Plane]

You should read the screeds that Joe thw Plumber has written since his fifteen minutes expired.

Even crazy old McCain has disowned him.

Joe gave up plumbing before President Obama was elected, by the way.

ok ,gota link?

[Xavier_Onassis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_Plumber

Joe lost the Congressional vote with under 30% of the vote.

He no longer plumbs.

[Plane]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_Plumber

Joe lost the Congressional vote with under 30% of the vote.

He no longer plumbs.

I read the Wicipedia about him, he doesn't seem all that hatefull.

If the district he was running in chose diffrent representation, that is on them.

What about him is bothering you?

Other than understanding Canadate Obama much better than the advrage person.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I did not say that Joe the Plumber was hateful.

I said that he never bought out his boss, he never earned  over $250,000 per year, and that he had apparently abandoned his plans to become a wealthy plumbing contractor.

Joe has the right to do whatever he wants. All I said was that I do not take him seriously, that's all.

[Plane]

His major claim to fame that I know of, he bravely spoke truth to power.                               

[Xavier_Onassis]

He spoke no truth whatever. He was never likely to pay that hideous 4% increase on profits above $250,000. His silly speech did not cause McCain to win or Obama to lose.

He spoke irrelevancy to everyone, and nearly everyone soon forgot what he said.

[Plane]

On the contrary both sides bring him up just to illistrate their point whenever they need the trope.

Did you bring him up or did I , I forget.

But what he said to President Obama was succinct and true , it will be remembered as long as Obama is because it sums him up.

[Xavier_Onassis]

No, it was NOT true, and as a political issue, it was rejected by the voters.

Again, 4% on income over $250K is NO BIG DEAL. To hear the 'baggers bitch about it, one would think that they were cannibalizing their first born alive. Not that one in a hundred of them would even pay a dime more in taxes.

Rejected in the polls and rejected at the ballot box.

Rejected twice at each place.

I brought him up as the best know of the teabagger doofi.

His 15 minutes of fame gone, he now fades away.

By the way, Joe the Ex Plumber never revealed whom he voted for, which ticked McCain off immensely.

[Plane]

What he said that made a diffrence was to put the "socialist" label accurately on Canadate Obama's shirt.

That is being perceptive.

Did he have goals he has not reached yet?

It is good that a mans reach exceed his grasp is it not?

What is fifteen minutes X eight years?

Joe will be remembered as long as Obama is,

[BT]

I brought him up as the best know of the teabagger doofi.

Which is interesting because the tea party came about after election, closer to 2010 than 2008.

[Plane]

I brought him up as the best know of the teabagger doofi.

Which is interesting because the tea party came about after election, closer to 2010 than 2008.

Did Joe ever join up with a TEA faction?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I do not know. He got a lot of support from them, to the degree that under 29% is a lot of support.

[BT]

Did Joe ever join up with a TEA faction?

Nothing i saw says he did.

I think baggers is the one size fits all lazy man's pejorative from the left for anyone they have been told to disagree with.