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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2013, 10:08:57 PM »
I literally eat gluten straight from the can. very tasty

Have you not had serious life threatening health issues in the last few years?
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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2013, 10:32:03 PM »
Kimba.....when ya get a chance please watch this video:

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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2013, 10:37:51 PM »
How do people who are not allergic tolerate gluten?

Plane they don't. Diet plays an enormous role in our over-all health.
I believe we are all basically wheat intolerant....just some more than others.
Sure most of us can eat wheat and see no immediate problems
but a long term diet high in processed foods with wheat (American diet) is a health disaster!

This involves recent discoverys, sometimes new knoledge is only a partial picture .

It might be better or worse than we know right now, but if you reduce yor wheat intake you become part of the experiment.

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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2013, 10:57:45 PM »
In looking around I can't find anyone at Harvard Medical, Yale, or John Hopkins, who gives a nod to this wheat belly theory. He may be on to something but I'd be surprised if it turned out to be much. And I take my diet VERY seriously and have been for over 35 years using the Mass General Hospital's and Hasrvard School of Public Health's nutrition programs .


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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2013, 01:20:20 AM »
my condition is caused by 40+ years of stress. diet has very little to do with my condition. high blood pressure in my twenties. so high I can`t even volunteer for blood pressure experiments. tip from me to everyone. don`t ever think you can afford to put off vacation or any recreational endeavers . the motivational speaker who say do a 120% forget to mention your very likely not see retirement.

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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2013, 11:23:49 AM »
Human beings are not all wheat intolerant. That is just silly. Bread made from wheat or a mixture of grains containing wheat has been a basic staple of the diet in Europe and North China for over a thousands years. There was no serious problem of obesity until modern times, when we started fiddling with stuff like hydrogenated fats and genetically altered corn and wheat. Since WWII, more specifically, since the 1960's, obesity has become a problem.

I had a lot of skin allergies when I was a kid, notably to a fungus called botrys. I took shots for allergies weekly. A specialist tested me for over a hundred different things, and wheat was never mentioned. 

Of course, it is true that bread and grains were not a part of the human diet until people settled down and began to farm. They may have eaten seeds, but milling them and baking them in bread was not common among cave dwellers.

There are many strains of wheat as well.  It is possible that some are more digestible than others. There is not much that anyone can do to make field corn (such as we feed to livestock these days) palatable. It is not designed for humans. But many other varieties of corn are very digestible.

It seems to me that someone has latched onto the allergy a few people have to high gluten wheat and have turned it into a diet industry.  Several years ago they did the same thing with all-protein diets, which no one messes with anymore.
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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2013, 12:48:51 PM »
How about asking the bigger question.

Gluten,peanuts etc.

Should we ban these common items or have people who are allergic learn to eat without.

I think preventing all school children from eating peanut butter is excessive .

Why are we not figuring out  it's so prevalent?

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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2013, 02:29:18 PM »
Peanut butter was something EVERYONE ate when I was a kid. I never heard of a peanut allergy until maybe 15 years ago.
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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2013, 02:43:10 PM »
I`ve been eating straight gluten for at least 30 years only heard of the allery maybe 7 years ago. if this food intolerance grows . we might living on cabbage mush later on .

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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2013, 03:31:03 PM »
Peanut butter is an excellent protein source. I mix it in with brown rice sometimes. Delicious.


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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2013, 07:03:50 PM »
can never get use to brown rice. maybe if it was cooked with bacon I can handle it

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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2013, 09:52:32 PM »
Human beings are not all wheat intolerant. That is just silly.

Ok....whatever you say.
I suppose it is also how one defines "intolerant".
Are human beings "intolerant" to cigarettes?
Well they play a huge factor in health and kill people....i see that as intolerant.
One defintion of "intolerant" is "unable to eat without adverse effects".
Wheat certainly fits that category in the amount of wheat in a typical American diet in 2013.

Bread made from wheat or a mixture of grains containing wheat has been a basic staple of the diet in Europe and North China for over a thousands years.
Exacty and wheat was changed about 60 years ago to be very unlike the wheat humans consumed for over a 1000 years.

There was no serious problem of obesity until modern times, when we started fiddling with stuff like hydrogenated fats and genetically altered corn and wheat. Since WWII, more specifically, since the 1960's, obesity has become a problem.

Yes....you are finally getting there.
Wheat changed and so did we.
Most grocery stores edible products are filled with foods that contain wheat.
Take a "wheat walk" in a typical US grocery store...wheat is almost everywhere!
Cereals, chips, cookies, ice cream, yogurt, candy, breads, pasta, crackers, sauces, pretzels, canned foods, ect, ect ,ect
It is raising our glycemic levels...contibuting to making us fat/obese, contibuting to diabetes.
Try to eat wheat free...hell it's so prevalent...it's nearly impossible.

How Wheat Makes You Fat!
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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2013, 11:04:41 PM »
What is really in everything is corn, more than wheat.
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Re: But what is a meat eater?
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2013, 01:12:14 AM »
Moderation. It's that simple. I eat wheat and I'm trim. CU eats wheat and I guess he has a big belly. Such is life.

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