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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 01:28:22 PM »
What does Jesus have to do with this?

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Because you suggest that the people posting this are scum because they are not altruistic, I was pointing out that anyone (even Jesus) certainly appeared to also not be altruistic.

I fail to see any logical reason to attack the people who listed these suggestions, as you did.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 04:06:55 PM »
I did not attack the people who listed these suggestions.

This is what i said:

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Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.


No where did i attack Kimba.


 

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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2013, 04:59:24 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

What is a good place for someone inexperienced in business, or having lots of wrong experience, to learn good business practices?

Define good business practices.

Case in point!

I thought the practces in the first post were attracitive, you must think some other way.

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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2013, 06:14:40 PM »
Exactly. I said nothing at all about kimba.

I fail to see why your think it is a "bunch of crap."

The suggestions seem quite good to me.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2013, 07:16:13 PM »
Wha??

Somebody attacked me?

I though you guys ignored my example as frivilous

Obviously I'm not reading all the post here

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2013, 07:39:00 PM »
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I fail to see any logical reason to attack the people who listed these suggestions, as you did.

Kimba listed the suggestions and i did not attack him.


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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2013, 07:40:20 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

What is a good place for someone inexperienced in business, or having lots of wrong experience, to learn good business practices?


Define good business practices.

Case in point!

I thought the practces in the first post were attracitive, you must think some other way.

Plane what in that list is original or groundbreaking?

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 08:33:43 PM »
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

What is a good place for someone inexperienced in business, or having lots of wrong experience, to learn good business practices?


Define good business practices.

Case in point!

I thought the practces in the first post were attracitive, you must think some other way.

Plane what in that list is original or groundbreaking?

I don't think so.Employers who look out for their people arn't new , but quite often they don't seem availible.
Is your opinion that the listed principals are trite?

Or poorly thought out?

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 09:29:37 PM »
It is my position that companies that are big enough to need this type of advice, already have HR specialists on the payroll and do not need 3rd party consultants or organizations telling them how to treat their employees.

It's kind of like company retreats where they bring in consultants to teach you how to trust one another. It is a superfluous expense, does not add much to the bottom line, and really shifts the focus from producing and delivering a product or service to the company to the best and highest standards to being nothing more than a job farm.

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2013, 09:31:15 PM »
Put another way, how would you feel about the Companies that Care organization, if you were mandated by law to join them?

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2013, 11:12:09 PM »
I think I get your point.

One of the things that peeves me is the OSHA VPP program.
Volentary Protective Program.

Nothing at all is volentary about it, it is good to run a safe industrial establishment , but the mandated safety measures are often innapropriate or superflouous, for one I have to wear hearing protection in a silent hangar to be in complience. Because OSHA is large the customising of a safety program must be clumsy and include measures that play better in some places than others, calling it volentary is just an insulting cherry on the top.

I have worked for the government so long that I shall not pretend that I know a lot about the business world, but it is often a guy like me that becomes a regulator.

So what I should ask is , how do the best practices get developed and promulgated sans government and without busybodys?

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2013, 11:20:46 PM »
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So what I should ask is , how do the best practices get developed and promulgated sans government and without busybodys?

By those in the trenches, ie those that do.

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2013, 11:39:58 PM »
Is it entirely evolutionary?

Can no school or other institution promote the right ideas?

Does a business that operates well have an inteerest in helping other businesses improve ?

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2013, 11:45:58 PM »
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Does a business that operates well have an inteerest in helping other businesses improve ?

They are free to be an example worth emulating, but are they obligated to share? I don't think so.

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Re: Companies That Care
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2013, 12:17:27 AM »
Is being good to employees , and having the reputation for being good to employees an advantage?

A large or small advantage in comparison to the effort required?