BenghaziGate Hearings

[Xavier_Onassis]

This was a minor incident.

It is unimportant to the fact that Prssident Obama has cleaned up Juniorbush's ghastly messes and has not mongered a war of his own.

Socialized medicine will one day save or extend your life, you should be grateful.

Dumb shits.

[BT]

Socialized medicine will one day save or extend your life, you should be grateful.

What part of ObamaCare is socialized medicine?

[BT]

I suspect there is blame here for Obama and Clinton prior to the attack. Once the attack started there wasn't much that could be done. Airpower was a 3 to 4 hour flight away and they would have needed to be refueled. From what I understand there were no tankers available. The Special Forces was also going to be late to the party.


BSB

The Enterprise was in the Med, it had passed thru the Suez 2 days earlier.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Wait and see, that is what we will have, eventually.

Healthcare is too expensive because hospitals, specialists and drug companies are allowed to set proces. This will have to stop, and the government will stop it. Profit margins and salaries will be forced down.

[BT]

Wait and see, that is what we will have, eventually.

Healthcare is too expensive because hospitals, specialists and drug companies are allowed to set proces. This will have to stop, and the government will stop it. Profit margins and salaries will be forced down.

We don't have universal healthcare now, and that is because Obama did a piss poor job of selling it when he had the house and senate to get it done.

[sirs]

Once the attack started there wasn't much that could be done. Airpower was a 3 to 4 hour flight away and they would have needed to be refueled. From what I understand there were no tankers available. The Special Forces was also going to be late to the party.

BSB

So, how far away is Tripoli from Benghazi?  Last I heard, we had Special Forces stationed there  (not to mention that the attack lasted hours, and was in at least 2 waves.  Even some flyovers could have swayed the attack, lessened it, maybe even save some lives) 

The efforts here to minimize and try to justify, not just the in-actions of this administration, but the clear effort to cover-up and try to make it about some you-tube video, is dare I say, very shameful, and very telling, considering these same folks are now trying to claim cover by citing that any "questioning" now is tantamount to politicizing the attack.  Especially given how vigorous the criticism would be if this were a President Bush, McCain, Romney, or Palin

[Christians4LessGvt]

I suspect there is blame here for Obama and Clinton prior to the attack. Once the attack started there wasn't much that could be done. Airpower was a 3 to 4 hour flight away and they would have needed to be refueled. From what I understand there were no tankers available. The Special Forces was also going to be late to the party. BSB

A US Special Forces ream in Tripoli was locked and loaded...
ready to go
and they were told to "stand down" and not go.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10040372/Benghazi-US-special-forces-team-ordered-to-stand-down.html

[sirs]

But C.... they had to be "hours" away.  I mean Tripoli is ........ how far away again, B?

[BSB]

The Enterprise was in the Med, it had passed thru the Suez 2 days earlier.

Show me that is was available.


BSB

[BSB]

The problem is not what happened after the attack was under way. The problem is that they were hung out to dry before the attack.

BSB

[BSB]

From CU4s posted article:

>>Mr Hicks said a unit of American commandos had been ordered to board a Libyan aircraft in Tripoli and fly to Benghazi hours after the assault began on September 11 last year.

However, as they were preparing to head to the airport they were told by a senior figure at the US Special Operations Command Africa "you don't have the authority to go now," Mr Hicks told congressional investigators.

According to Mr Hicks's account, the special forces team would still have arrived too late to prevent the deaths of Mr Stevens and three other Americans.<<

Too late for the party.



BSB

[sirs]

The problem is not what happened after the attack was under way. The problem is that they were hung out to dry before the attack.

BSB

Actually the problem is that we had special forces no more than 2 hours away, in an attack that lasted OVER 7 HOURS.  The Consulate radioed for assistance almost immediately.  We had air assets, including C-130's no more than 3 hours away, that did NOT require any refueling.  The problem remains the elephant in the room.....the efforts to minimize and try to justify, not just the in-actions of this administration, including & especially the State Dept, but the clear effort to cover it up and try to make it about some you-tube video.  So, we can "speculate" that their arrival would have been too late, but the problem is, it may have not been

[BSB]

The elephant was in the room before the attack took place. That's the point. It's just like Lebanon. The mistake occurred before they drove through the gate and killed several hundred Marines. This happens a lot. People warn, and warn, no one does anything, bang.

BSB

[sirs]

The elephant was in the room before the attack took place. That's the point.

That's ONE of the points, and agreeably a BIG one (I guess we have Hillary and the State Dept to thank for that).  The BIGGER point here were the in actions of this Administration, when they CLEARLY had a window of opportunity to intercede, diminish, possibly have even halted the attack, even possibly preventing the deaths of 4 Americans.  With then the BIGGEST point, the cover-up immediately following, based on what was clearly playing politics, as an election was drawing near.  4 lives, needlessly lost, because the Democrats had an election to win, as they could not be bothered with any of the clear warnings being provided before had, and couldn't be bothered with letting the Citizenry know the truth of what actually happened, after the fact, and risk dear Obama looking bad before ballots are cast.  Yea, let's blame it on a you-tube video.  Yea, that's the ticket   

[BSB]

The elephant was in the room before the attack took place. That's the point.

That's ONE of the points, and agreeably a BIG one (I guess we have Hillary and the State Dept to thank for that).  The BIGGER point here were the in actions of this Administration, when they CLEARLY had a window of opportunity to intercede, diminish, possibly have even halted the attack, even possibly preventing the deaths of 4 Americans.  With then the BIGGEST point, the cover-up immediately following, based on what was clearly playing politics, as an election was drawing near.  4 lives, needlessly lost, because the Democrats had an election to win, as they could not be bothered with any of the clear warnings being provided before had, and couldn't be bothered with letting the Citizenry know the truth of what actually happened, after the fact, and risk dear Obama looking bad before ballots are cast.  Yea, let's blame it on a you-tube video.  Yea, that's the ticket   

Look, if the Special Forces, a unit I served in, was in Tripoli, that is hours from where the attack occurred. If you think they could have stopped the assault after it started you're going to have do better than you've done showing how. You can't just say, hey the SF unit was locked and loaded. Or, hey we had a carrier in the Mediterranean. They fucked up alright but they fucked up beforehand.


BSB