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Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« on: May 15, 2013, 10:04:28 PM »
President Obama Announces IRS Chief (Steven Miller) Resignation

President Obama Announces IRS Chief (Steven Miller) Resignation
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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 10:15:14 PM »


Senior U.S. tax officials knew of extra Tea Party scrutiny -documents

May 14 2013

By Kim Dixon and Kevin Drawbaugh

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Higher-level U.S. Internal Revenue Service officials took part in discussions as far back as August 2011 about targeting by lower-level tax agents of "Tea Party" and other conservative groups, according to documents reviewed by Reuters on Monday.

The documents show the offices of the IRS's chief counsel and deputy commissioner for services and enforcement communicated about the targeting with lower-level officials on August 4, 2011, and March 8, 2012, respectively.

The two communications occurred weeks and months before Doug Shulman, then the commissioner of the IRS, told congressional panels in late March 2012 that no groups were being targeted for extra scrutiny by the tax agency.

The IRS has maintained that its senior leadership did not know for some time that lower-level agents were applying extra scrutiny to applications for tax-exempt status from groups with key words in their names, such as "Tea Party" and "Patriot."

The agency said in a statement on Monday that Steven Miller, who is now acting IRS commissioner, was first informed in early May 2012 that some groups seeking tax-exempt status had been "improperly identified by name" and subjected to extra scrutiny.

The controversy that has erupted over this practice drew comment on Monday from President Barack Obama, who said it would be "outrageous" if IRS staff targeted conservative groups.

He said anyone who did such targeting must be held fully accountable because the IRS must be neutral and nonpartisan.

The top Republican lawmaker in charge of IRS oversight set a hearing date for Friday to probe the practice, which burst into wider view last week at a legal conference where a senior IRS official apologized for it.

The controversy threatens to tarnish the image of the IRS, an independent government agency that has long maintained it is free of political influence.

A report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA), an independent IRS watchdog, on the targeting of the groups is due to be made public this week.

Portions of it obtained by Reuters over the weekend listed the meetings that took place between lower-level staff and the unnamed senior officials.

Miller was IRS deputy commissioner for services and enforcement at the time of a March 8, 2012, e-mail exchange in which his office took part, according to the TIGTA documents. No individuals are names by TIGTA.

The watchdog's report reads that on March 8, 2012, "The Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement requested that, if a taxpayer called about having to provide donor information, the determinations unit would allow them to not send the donor names," but be told they might need to provide them later.

Miller could not be reached for comment.

Miller has been leading the IRS following the November 2012 departure of Shulman, who stepped down as chief of the agency when his term expired. Miller also remains deputy commissioner for services and enforcement.

The TIGTA documents also mention an August 4, 2011, meeting about the targeting between lower-level officials and the office of the IRS chief counsel, but again, no names are listed.

William Wilkins was then, and is now, the IRS chief counsel. He could not be reached for comment.

The IRS chief counsel's office employs about 1,600 lawyers and it was unclear who among them might have taken part in the discussions with lower-level officials. The IRS has roughly 90,000 employees.

How much the IRS leadership knew about the targeting, and when, are two of many questions still unanswered in the controversy.

IRS agents in a Cincinnati field office in 2010 started using keywords - such as "Tea Party" and "Patriot" - to sift through thousands of groups' applications for tax-exempt status and pick out ones for possible closer scrutiny.

The procedure emerged at a time of controversy about tax-exempt groups organized under U.S. tax law 501(c)4. Such groups multiplied after the U.S. Supreme Court's 2010 "Citizens United" ruling that relaxed campaign finance rules.

New applications for tax-exempt status poured into the IRS in 2010. Most, but not all, were from conservative groups. The agency came under pressure to deal with the volume and to ensure that the groups were following the 501(c)4 rules.

These state that 501(c)4 groups need not disclose their donors and may spend money on advertising around general issues, but they may not endorse specific candidates or parties.

Lois Lerner, head of the IRS tax-exempt organizations office, set off a firestorm at the Washington legal conference on Friday when she apologized for the targeting, which conservatives had complained of for years.

Floyd Williams, who was chief of legislative affairs when he left the IRS in 2012 after serving at the agency for nearly 16 years, said the agency's decisions are very decentralized.

"I would drop over dead if there were any indication that the White House was involved and I would say the same with Treasury," Williams said. "It is deliberately decentralized because of the notion that the political people should not be involved in the day activities."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/14/us-usa-tax-irs-idUSBRE94D00V20130514

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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 06:39:24 PM »
...An official close to acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller, told Fox News, shortly after Obama's brief announcement, that the IRS chief was "set to resign the position of acting commission as of early June." He was planning to leave the IRS entirely a "couple of months later, regardless of the current controversy," the source said.

Was going to be leaving anyways........I see
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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 09:34:33 AM »
What the Hell!

Does Obama really think that people won't figure out how choreographed his press conferences are?

After keeping the White House press corps waiting for more than 40 minutes in the rain yesterday, Obama finally emerged. Obama took the first question from Bloomberg's Julianna Goldman, whose parents contributed at least $5,400 to Obama during the last cycle.

That was not the first time Goldman has received preferential treatment from Obama. Obama personally served birthday cake to Goldman during an Air Force One flight from Afghanistan last May.

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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 11:31:16 AM »
Oh, it gets better.......

IRS Official Who Oversaw Targeting Scandal Now In Charge of Obamacare Division
Guy Benson | May 16, 2013

Reality is sometimes crazier than fiction.  My initial reaction? You must be joking (via ABC News):

The Internal Revenue Service official in charge of the tax-exempt organizations at the time when the unit targeted tea party groups now runs the IRS office responsible for the health care legislation. Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today. Her successor, Joseph Grant, is taking the fall for misdeeds at the scandal-plagued unit between 2010 and 2012. During at least part of that time, Grant served as deputy commissioner of the tax-exempt unit.

If you're waiting for a rimshot, give it up.  Smell the reality, friends.  And In case you were curious, yes of course Ms. Ingram raked in more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded bonuses as she oversaw her office's the abusive targeting scheme.  Now she's off to bigger and better things; namely, monitoring and enforcing your healthcare arrangements.  Conservatives have already started making the IRS-Obamacare nexus clear -- a killer talking point -- but this new information brings the connection to an entirely new level. The woman who is arguably the individual most directly responsible for the operation of the IRS targeting scandal has been promoted to run Obamacare enforcement. 

Let that sink in. 

Obamacare's core individual mandate, which the Supreme Court upheld as a tax in 2012, goes into effect next year, and our trustworthy, apolitical pals at the Internal Revenue Service are in charge of policing it.  I'm sure being infected by toxic IRS taint will make Obamacare even more popular than it already is.

On a related note, the House just voted (again) to repeal Obamacare in its entirety.  Democrats mocked and belittled the effort, wherein every Republican voted in favor of uprooting this unaffordable mess, while all but two House Democrats voted to keep it in place.  Look at these obsessed fools, banging their heads against a wall for the 37th time, liberals are chuckling.  I doubt they'll be laughing for long.  First of all, several of the more narrowly-tailored repeal votes actually succeeded. But here's another key point here: Both Democrat "yea" votes came from House veterans who represent red districts.  That means that every other vulnerable Democrat, and every single Democratic freshman, voted to protect every last detail of Obamacare, including IRS enforcement.  How's that going to play?  (Have fun, NRCC).  House Republicans couldn't have timed this symbolic vote any better.  Hell, the GOP campaign committees should send flowers to the entire IRS management team

I'm speechless.
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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 10:10:04 PM »
New York Times:
Obama Administration Knew of IRS Scandal 5 Months Before Election


In no uncertain terms and with no hedging, The New York Times reports that the Obama administration was aware of the fact that the IRS was targeting Tea Party groups as far back as June of 2012. The Treasury Department's Inspector General confirmed that he told senior Treasury officials in June of 2012, a full five months before Election Day:

The Treasury Department?s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Service?s screening of politically active organizations seeking tax exemptions, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

We still don?t know for sure what the President knew or when he knew it, but this does confirm that the administration was aware of the fact that Obama's political enemies were under fire by the IRS and covered that fact up during an election year.

As Lisa Meyers of NBC News told "Morning Joe" today, "Imagine if we -- if you can -- what would have happened if this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different."

The first time President Obama was asked when he found out about the IRS scandal, he told the media that he learned of the news last Friday, the same way the rest of us did -- from the news media.

Thursday, a Bloomberg reporter asked the President when he or anyone else in the White House learned of the scandal. The President dodged the question.

With this latest news confirming when the Administration first learned of the IRS scandal,  we now know that, along with Benghazi and the unfurling Associated Press scandal, there were three scandals brewing and unfolding in the White House during an election year. But we are only now hearing about them -- six months after Barack Obama was safely re-elected.

This fact says as much about the failure of our lapdog national media as it does about President Obama. Why just this morning the Times itself dismissed the IRS scandal on its editorial page.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/17/NYT-Obama-Admin-Aware-of-IRS-Scandal-6-Months-before-Election
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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 08:53:38 AM »
Of course it did.       >:(
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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 11:29:58 PM »
I would like to know .


Does this reveil a dirty tricks team at work?

Or just a few co-incidences?

Either way , has the president and his team become accustomed to sweeping stuff underrug?

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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 11:45:08 PM »

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Re: Obama's IRS-Gate (the first "fall guy" goes)
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 12:02:14 AM »
Shhhhhh.....far too many facts and details getting in the way of a good cover-up
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