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« on: June 01, 2013, 02:50:16 PM »
Iraq uncovers al-Qaeda 'chemical weapons plot'

The militants allegedly built two facilities to produce sarin and mustard gas
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The authorities in Iraq say they have uncovered an al-Qaeda plot to use chemical weapons, as well as to smuggle them to Europe and North America.

Defence ministry spokesman Mohammed al-Askari said five men had been arrested after military intelligence monitored their activities for three months.

Three workshops for manufacturing the chemical agents, including sarin and mustard gas, were uncovered, he added.

Remote-controlled toy planes were also seized at the workshops.

Mr Askari said they were to have been used to release the chemical agents over the target from a "safe" distance of 1.5km (0.9 miles), reports the BBC's Rami Ruhayem in Baghdad.

All of the arrested men had confessed to the plot, and said they had received instruction from another al-Qaeda offshoot, he added.

As the defence ministry spokesman spoke on Iraqi TV, footage was shown of four men with black hoods on their heads, our correspondent adds. Three of them were wearing bright yellow jumpsuits and a fourth was in a brown jumpsuit.


All of the arrested men have allegedly confessed
Their arrests were possible because of co-operation between Iraqi and foreign intelligence services, Mr Askari said.

Chlorine bombs
Al-Qaeda in Iraq is believed the only offshoot of the Islamist militant network to have used chemical weapons.

It detonated a 16 crude chlorine bombs in Iraq between October 2006 and June 2007.

Chlorine inhalation made many hundreds of people sick, but no deaths resulting from exposure to the chemical were recorded, US officials said at the time. Instead, the bomb blasts are believed to have caused the fatalities.

At the time, US officials said al-Qaeda appeared to want to use debilitating agents like chlorine in their bombs to cause casualties beyond those hit by the initial explosion.

US and Iraqi troops subsequently killed or detained many of the militants who were building the chlorine-laced bombs and seized much of their stockpiled chemicals.

A letter written by the late al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden five days before he was killed in a US military raid in Pakistan in 2011 urged members of the group's offshoot in Yemen who he believed were considering using "poison" to be "careful of doing it without enough study of all aspects, including political and media reaction", according to CNN.

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Re: Mission Accomplished
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 02:54:05 PM »
There might not have been any al Qaeda and WMD in Iraq when Bush lied and people died invaded but there appears to be now.


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Re: Mission Accomplished
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 06:10:15 PM »
There might not have been any al Qaeda and WMD in Iraq when Bush lied and people died invaded but there appears to be now.


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Why do you think there is some now?

Is the evidence now a better quality than then?

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Re: Mission Accomplished
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 06:14:49 PM »
The door was opened, al Qaeda came in, and they're taking advantage of the chaos.


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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 06:20:14 PM »
True.


Knocking Saddam down turned out to be a minor part of the task.

Al Quieda has been sowing chaos and hiding in the termoil.

Does Al Quieda have any potential to become a governing party?

Seems like coming out of hiding and trying to rule would destroy the advantage Al Queda has over Saddams force.

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Re: Mission Accomplished
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 02:39:21 PM »
"Al Quieda has been sowing chaos and hiding in the termoil."

That's exactly right Plane. That's why the idea of using Iraq, during the Iraq War, as a corral for al Qaeda would have been a bad idea. Even if it could have been done it would have been far too dangerous.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 04:22:40 PM »
More dangerous than leaving them alone?
They have to be fought somewhere, where exactly is best?

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 04:51:41 PM »
Why do they have to be fought at all? They are not an army.

They need to be simply eliminated wherever they are, and that is what has been done. The leadership has been captured and/or killed. They have far less support than they did after 9/11.
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Re: Mission Accomplished
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 04:57:36 PM »
Plane, get out of your head.

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2013, 05:59:56 PM »
Why do they have to be fought at all? They are not an army.

They need to be simply eliminated wherever they are, and that is what has been done. The leadership has been captured and/or killed. They have far less support than they did after 9/11.


Ah.... you have been listening to BHO .

Who says that sort of thing, in Bengazi?

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2013, 06:00:59 PM »
Plane, get out of your head.

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Hmmmm...?

How do you know I am in my head?

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2013, 08:29:07 PM »
You don't try and outsmart al Qaeda by inviting them to a party. That's what they want.

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2013, 09:41:04 PM »
You don't try and outsmart al Qaeda by inviting them to a party. That's what they want.

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Hey, it is their party, they would rather have it in NYC or LA.

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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2013, 10:29:24 PM »
http://start.toshiba.com/news/read/category/Top%20News/article/ap-yemeni_alqaida_leader_warns_americans_on-ap
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SANAA, Yemen (AP) — The military leader of al-Qaida's Yemeni branch says Americans will not be safe unless their leaders respect the security of other nations and do not attack or oppress them.

In a message addressed "to the American nation," Qassim al-Rimi, commander of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, said: "your security is not achieved by despoiling other nations' security or by attacking and oppressing them."

The six-minute English-subtitled audio, posted on a militant website late Saturday, implored Americans to "leave us with our religion, land and nations and mind your own internal affairs."

Al-Rimi said the bombing of the Boston marathon in April, and the recent sending of ricin-tainted letters to President Barack Obama and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg "indicate that the control of your security has broken away." The video was produced by al-Qaida's media arm, al-Malahem Foundation.