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Conceiled carry Open carry
« on: June 16, 2013, 08:19:55 PM »
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Re: Conceiled carry Open carry
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 09:49:28 PM »
On a serious note however, open carry is NOT, repeat, NOT a good idea.  The reason concealed carry is such an effective deterrent is that the bad guy doesn't know who might be carrying.  If they do know, them they become target #1
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2013, 10:16:34 PM »
If I had my way I would make a goal of 5%.

If 5% of the regular Joes and Janes were carrying concieled arms all of the time , a criminal would be playing odds of one in twenty every time he robbed , raped or otherwise comitted a crime.

It would not even be hard to find 5% of the population that had good historys and reasonable self controll.


I would expect the result to be a drastic decline in violent crimes.

Every percent above 5% would just be gravy.

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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 10:22:08 PM »
I like the goal, but definately wouldn't make it a legislative mandate
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 10:34:00 PM »
Yes , but I think a small percent like 5% could be encouraged without being forced .

How much change would this require?

Could you give a small reward to people who carry and behave well?

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 10:45:06 PM »
To be honest, I wouldn't want to place some "reward", at least monetarily.  I think it may attract too many who just want to recapture images of the old west.  I'll have to mull other some other incentives
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 11:36:45 PM »
Ok

Want to brainstorm?

What could be done that would destroy the confidence of criminals , without offending a lot of ordinary citizens or causing opression to even a few innocents?


This is not a trivial problem, it is the whole reason the police exist.

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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2013, 12:10:50 AM »
Exactly, and why monetary incentives should be relegated to law enforcement, IMHO.  Hmmmmmm   So, common sense tells us criminals do not want to get shot.  They'll try to avoid persons/places they know have guns, except of course for the extreme nut cases that may be targeting someone famous or political, regardless of what bodyguards they may have.  I love the idea of signs that include "This neighborhood patrolled by Concealed Carry Holders". 

But as for incentivising 5% of the population to be CCW holders?.......hmmmm......perhaps they can be provided extra discounts or even free access to Gun safety courses and defensive pistol competitions.  My time in IDPA (International Defensive Pistol Association) was very rewarding and instructive
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2013, 12:23:57 AM »
The IDPA: "Experience the thrill, the excitement and the camaraderie of competitive shooting. Join IDPA, ....."

"The International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA) is the governing body of a shooting sport that simulates self-defense scenarios and real life encounters." 

http://www.idpa.com

Ha ha, in other words, get your rocks off shooting at human targets.


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Re: Conceiled carry Open carry
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2013, 12:31:30 AM »
Naaa, more like learn how to defend yourself safely using a pistol.  That is what a bad guy is to someone defending themself with a firearm...a human target. 

Well, if BnonameB doesn't like the idea, I'm thinking its a better idea all the more    8)
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Re: Conceiled carry Open carry
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2013, 02:30:13 AM »
"if BnonameB doesn't like the idea"

I said nothing about Planes idea.


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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2013, 02:38:29 AM »
A serious revolver. Freedom Arms does really great work.

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/freedom-arms-1997-45-lc-pr23938/

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2013, 03:15:59 AM »
"if BnonameB doesn't like the idea"

I said nothing about Planes idea.

When did I say you did??
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2013, 03:28:54 AM »
Funny, I see IDPA, and its competition shooting, as a fact, and you and plan are working on an idea.


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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2013, 03:47:34 AM »
That made no sense.  He asked about brainstorming ideas.  I referenced the notion (possible plan) of providing opportunity to incentivise potential CCW holders, with improved access to Safety Courses and firearms training, such as IDPA.  So, it was never Plane's idea, as it relates to IDPA

Would you like to provide some ideas to bring about a goal of 5% of the population as being CCW holders?  THAT would be Plane's idea
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