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Plane

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Gross Cartoon
« on: March 25, 2014, 09:46:01 PM »
Don't , just don't think about it if you are about to have a meal.


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I do think that abortion is one of the things that devalues humans worth to humans.
It is so bad that it is difficult to discuss civilly or calmly or rationally.

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Re: Gross Cartoon
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 09:55:56 PM »
I think fetus smoothies are a silly thing to discuss.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Gross Cartoon
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 11:05:00 PM »
It is also tragic.

sirs

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2014, 03:18:39 AM »
Indeed    :-[
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2014, 11:43:30 AM »
No, it is not tragic. Look up the word "tragic".

No one makes fetus shakes. This is just stupid.
If people DID make fetus shakes, that would not fit the definition of "tragis", either.
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Re: Gross Cartoon
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2014, 05:03:14 PM »
Google says....
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trag·ic      /?trajik/    adjective
adjective: tragic

1. causing or characterized by extreme distress or sorrow.
"the shooting was a tragic accident"

synonyms: disastrous, calamitous, catastrophic, cataclysmic, devastating, terrible, dreadful, awful, appalling, dismal, horrendous;


    Seems to fit for me.
    Your disagreement is near the center of the issue, I think a person is destroyed in an abortion, and this is no less tragic for there being little complaint from the persons destroyed.

     The opposite is to define "person" narrowly enough that what is destroyed is not a person , and an abortion is therefore no more tragic than an appendectomy.

      This is a very tragic circumstance as far as I can tell , and it coarsens and toughens the sensibilities of us all.  This is a circumstance that causes a general devaluation of personhood across the board.

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Re: Gross Cartoon
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 09:05:32 PM »
The cartoon is referring to making smoothies, not abortions. A tragedy is a bad thing that happens to someone because of an action he or she makes due to a flaw in his or her character.  A fetus makes no actions of any sort.

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Re: Gross Cartoon
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 01:37:19 AM »
Why is your definition more narrow than Googles?


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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 06:46:03 AM »
The term 'tragedy' comes from the Greek, and has been misused to mean 'disastrous'  for so long that Google (which is NOT regarded by anyone as the last word on lexicology ) has included this as a definition.

A tragedy teaches us something about ourselves; a disaster only tells us to run away or confront.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 10:52:38 AM »
And so far, even your own tweaked definition of tragedy, continues to reinforce Plane's point
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 12:17:53 PM »
Only in your twisted mind, sirs; only in your sad, twisted mind.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 01:02:03 PM »
So says your 99% wrong conclusions, perhaps
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 08:17:54 PM »
You have never, in all recorded history, been anything other than a prick, sirs.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2014, 08:53:15 PM »
   I think that what a word is generally understood to mean , or what any two users between them can agree to understand it to mean , is exactly what it means.

    The natural evolution of language expands some words and shrinks others, sounds change, usage changes and pidgins and creoles form.

     I am fascinated by the subject , tho I am totally amateur , ...


... I think in any case , you understood what I meant to say , even if there might have been a better word to choose.



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tragic
trag·ic adjective \?tra-jik\ 

: causing strong feelings of sadness usually because someone has died in a way that seems very shocking, unfair, etc.

: involving very sad or serious topics : of or relating to tragedy



Full Definition of TRAGIC


1

:  of, marked by, or expressive of tragedy <the tragic significance of the atomic bomb — H. S. Truman>


2

a :  dealing with or treated in tragedy <the tragic hero>
 
b :  appropriate to or typical of tragedy

3

a :  regrettably serious or unpleasant :  deplorable, lamentable <a tragic mistake>
 
b :  marked by a sense of tragedy
— trag·i·cal·ly  adverb


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Re: Gross Cartoon
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2014, 10:43:31 PM »
You have never, in all recorded history, been anything other than a prick, sirs.

We'll just chalk that up the aforementioned record of wrongness.  But your opinion on the matter, is duly noted
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle