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sirs

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It's always the cover-up
« on: May 02, 2014, 01:38:26 PM »
Better late than never

House Speaker John Boehner is “seriously considering” appointing a select committee to investigate the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, according to a senior GOP leadership aide. The move comes after the revelation of an email from a top Obama national security official, Ben Rhodes, instructing Susan Rice to focus on an anti-Muslim internet video to explain the attacks.

“The new emails this week were the straw that broke the camel’s back,” says the aide. “The Speaker was furious to learn that the admininstration withheld relevant documents from a congressional subpoena. He’s sick and tired of this evasion and obstruction from the administration, and wants a solution to finally force accountability, get to the truth, and provide justice.”

Boehner, who has paid careful attention to the Benghazi developments since the attacks, has resisted calls to appoint a select committee, preferring to allow the various committees of jurisdiction to pursue investigations of their slices of the attacks on their own. Aides say Boehner continues to believe that the work of those committees has been valuable. “The current committees investigating the attack have done good work, using their authority, including subpoena authority, to gather facts, interview hundreds of witnesses, and conduct dozens of hearings. But this week’s events demonstrate a new level of stonewalling and obfuscation by the administration that requires a new level of investigation.”
 
The House Oversight and Reform Committee issued a subpoena for Benghazi-related documents in August of 2013, but the Rhodes email and a second set of talking points that originated with the White House were released to the public for the first time this week after Judicial Watch, a conservative research group, obtained them via a Freedom of Information Act request. For these reasons, according the aide, “the reasons for appointing a committee now are straightforward.” The aide continued: “For the first time we have clear and public evidence that the White House was more involved in misleading the American people than it had previous admitted. And, second, it’s now proven that the administration withheld relevant documents from a congressional subpoena request. While the existing investigatory committees in the House have full subpoena power, the administration has now demonstrated it is willing to flagrantly defy such subpoena requests, compelling the House to consider taking the strongest actions possible in an effort to ensure Americans have the truth about what happened.”

The details of the exact structure of the special committee are still under discussion, but a source tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that Rep. Trey Gowdy, a lawmaker with a reputation for tough questioning of administration witnesses, is under consideration to chair it. Gowdy has participated in meetings of an ad hoc committee of House members from various committees of jurisdiction who have met informally to compare notes and shape strategy on the Benghazi investigations.

Separately, TWS has learned that at least two committees will begin an immediate inquiry into the odd pattern of classification that preceded the release of Benghazi documents this week. Some of the previously unclassified redacted documents released to Judicial Watch were classified by the administration in February, after the subpoena from the House Oversight Committee and the FOIA request from Judicial Watch.

Boehner has largely stayed in the background on Benghazi, but he has demonstrated a keen interested in the growing controversy behind the scenes. In private conversations with members of Congress and others, Boehner cites key dates in the long Benghazi timeline from memory. He has also shown a particular interest in the stories of US security and diplomatic personnel who were on the ground during the attacks.
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2014, 01:59:31 PM »
SIRS....it is always the cover-up
but is amazing how poor we are at getting to the truth:

When Republicans do bad things:
Iran/Contra ---> busted big investigations - people jailed
Watergate ---->busted big investigations  - people jailed

When Democrats do bad things:
Obama IRS targeting conservative groups 
IRS Chairman simply pleads the 5th
Basically nothing happens

Benghazi Ambassador Killed
Probable Gun Running Operation to Al-Qaeda in Syria
Basically nothing happens.

It all goes back to us (Republicans) not being ruthless enough.
Democrats are ruthless.
Our leadership are cowards, good ole boys
that need to be replaced by non-cowards.
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2014, 02:00:54 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2014, 02:26:41 PM »
And notice what the biggest "talking point/defense" is going to be......."That happened 2years ago, get over it".  Like if Nixon's folks was able to bury those tapes thru his tenure as president, only to show up at the end, that the media would have been, "Well that was over 2years ago.  Water under the bridge.  Time to move along, and let what Nixon and his folks did just go away.  Yea right......they'd not only be screeching hyperbolically, it'd be even higher with the notion that the tapes were "covered up", on top of the original cover up

We all knew it was bad.......but wow, to think that the folks in charge, messers Obama & Clinton are somehow to be let off the hook, the same hook that'd be castrating a Republican for doing the same, is pretty blatant.  Is it any wonder why our Professor keeps perpetuating how this will go no where,.... it only matters to racist tea party folk....that we just need to move on. 

And to think, albeit no one died, the IRS debacle is likely even worse, as it relates to brazen unethical, if not criminal behavior, shows just how far our media has fallen in its original manifestation of reporting bad acts by ANY political entity
« Last Edit: May 02, 2014, 03:32:52 PM by sirs »
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 02:20:58 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2014, 09:31:51 AM »
Connect the dots: 4/21 - WH picks Neil Eggleston as new counsel.

A week later, Rhodes email pops up...

Everyone missed what is now, in hindsight, a crystal clear signal that the White House knew that the buffalo chips were about to hit the fan; and that they are very worried.

On April 21, the White House announced that Neil Eggleston would be the new counsel to the president. It didn't get much notice, but in light of recent events, it's a really big deal....Egglestone was a key player in the Clinton White House, helping to defend both Bill and Hillary in multiple scandal investigations and two independent counsel investigations, including Bubba's lying under oath about his relationship with Monica. This is what Eggleston does..and he's very, very good at it.

There's only one reason for the Obama administration to be bringing Eggleston back into the White House..they're worried, nervous, and very likely, there's much more bad news to come out..
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2014, 01:50:28 PM »
This makes me very nostalgic for the times of Bush.

Bush 41 gets caught in a lie , and nothing else counts.

Bush 43 tells a German that he caught a big fish , and the question of his possible exaggeration gets thoroughly examined in the press and online.


Nowadays , Perhaps the President and his Secretary of State have been incompetent in a way that results in four deaths and covers this up with a lie, and "at this point what does it matter?"?

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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2014, 06:59:40 PM »
Juniorbush was responsible for mongering a useless war that killed thousands.

There were 88 people killed in embassy bombings during his terms.
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2014, 10:06:33 PM »


There were 88 people killed in embassy bombings during his terms.

That wasn't Clintonian era?

1998?
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 January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001. Clinton was the first Democratic president since Franklin D. Roosevelt to win two full terms.

   Perhaps you do not remember it as during the Clinton term because Clinton had no reaction to it.

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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2014, 11:42:55 PM »
Juniorbush was responsible for mongering a useless war that killed thousands.

That's an opinion on "useless".  More importantly, it was never covered up


There were 88 people killed in embassy bombings during his terms.

See above as it relates to never having had anything covered up
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2014, 11:52:59 PM »
And IIRC, no one died or was killed in watergate.  So why was Nixon about to be impeached, just before he resigned?
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2014, 06:44:37 PM »
Nixon hired people to spy on the Democratic Party. He tried to use his power to thwart the will of the people.

Benghazi was simply an error, like letting the terrorists get too close to the Cole, or not protecting the Embassies in Africa. 

It was NOT the President conspiring with Al Qaeda to get the ambassador killed.

If you can't see the difference, you are too dumb to breathe.
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2014, 07:04:48 PM »
Benghazi was simply an error, like letting the terrorists get too close to the Cole, or not protecting the Embassies in Africa. 

Ridiculous!
Benghazi was an "Iran/Contra" but much worse.
At least "Iran/Contra" was an attempt to get US Hostages free.
The cause was noble.
Obama's Benghazi-gate was selling arms to Al-Qaeda.
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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2014, 10:00:34 PM »
Nixon hired people to spy on the Democratic Party. He tried to use his power to thwart the will of the people.
Which Obama need not do because he has the NSA , and don't forget that Nixon and Obama have the same usage of the IRS to punish the enemies list.
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Benghazi was simply an error, like letting the terrorists get too close to the Cole, or not protecting the Embassies in Africa. 
so covering it up was a mistake?
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It was NOT the President conspiring with Al Qaeda to get the ambassador killed.
True, but it was the president telling the American people that the Al Quieda threat was over and being in denial of the reality.
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If you can't see the difference, you are too dumb to breathe.

Hmmmm.... CPR here please. I really can't see where President Obama can claim to be superior to President Nixon in any category , tho the Nobel Prize committee seems to disagree with me, I remember that they gave the peace prize to Kissenger  during the Nixon administration.

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Re: It's always the cover-up
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2014, 11:07:14 PM »
Nixon hired people to spy on the Democratic Party. He tried to use his power to thwart the will of the people.

Obama hired people to cover up an action that took the lives of 4 Americans.  He's now using his power to thwart the will of the people.  So far, no difference than Watergate outside of lives actually lost this go around


Benghazi was simply an error, like letting the terrorists get too close to the Cole, or not protecting the Embassies in Africa.

Benghazi WAS PREVENTABLE, as the bipartsian Senate report concluded.  The "error" was in the failure of his foreign policy, hiring incompetents to run the state dept, and punctuated by the lack of any effort what-so-ever to try and save what was left, once the attack was confirmed in progress.  And now the cover up, of that egregious effort 


It was NOT the President conspiring with Al Qaeda to get the ambassador killed.

DEFLECTION ALERT......NO ONE IS CLAIMING ANY SUCH THING.  GIVE THAT A REST. 
NO ONE IS CLAIMING THAT OBAMA "SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, OR PREDICTED THE ATTACK. 
NO ONE IS CLAIMING THAT HILLARY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN OR PREDICTED SOME ATTACK. 
NO ONE IS CLAIMING THAT EITHER IS CONSPIRING WITH ANY KNOWN OR UNKNOWN TERRORISTS. 
SO GIVE THOSE DEFLECTION EFFORTS A REST.  THEY HOLD NO WATER


If you can't see the difference, you are too dumb to breathe.

If you can't acknowledge how comparable they are, your coolaide has effectively saturated your entire blood stream
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