And THIS is one of our History Teachers

[Xavier_Onassis]

I would say she represents a tiny proportion, certainly not even a majority of Black professors.

I don't think of Momia as being any sort of hero. At best, he was unfairly convicted. Momia is essentially a nobody, as irrelevant today as Sista Souljah.

[sirs]

I would say differently.  So, she's wrong then, correct?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I do not think much of anyone considers Mumia to be any sort of hero.
All I have ever heard about him in my mostly Black college was that he was unfairly sentenced.

One student had  a "free Mumia" T shirt, out of over 1500.

The guy is barely known.

[sirs]

So she was wrong, correct?  Especially considering that apeal after appearl after appeal has upheld the conviction as being fairly tried and sentenced

[Xavier_Onassis]

There was no DNA evidence. I have no idea what reeally happened.

But I don't see any reason for anyone to call Mumia any sore of hero or role model.

My friend the Black Studies prof with major dreadlocks thinks reparations are needed, and does not think Mumia is any sort of hero.

There are a few history professors who say dumb things.  I would say that she is one of them. And hardly typical of any "Liberals" I know. Or professors.

[sirs]

A crime doesn't require DNA, nor does anyone think you were an eye witness.  This is simply referring to the facts of the case, which included multiple appeals, that were all declared invalid.  So, she was both wrong & dumb.  Glad we got that cleared up 

[kimba1]

mumia seems to me to most scrutinized case so unless their are factors I`m not aware off he seems pretty guilty. note she did state questionable issues on all the appeals process but as I said before he became the poster child for wrongful conviction so basicly he cannot if ever be thought totally guilty. I personally witness African-americans are more inclined to treated guilty till proven innocent . often I hear if a crime happen people likely ask is he black. I`ll also state again abit of it is cause by their own actions just to be fair

[sirs]

Funny thing is, I never ask about or wonder about a person's skin color, as it relates to a crime committed.  It distracts attention away from the actual crime committed.  But that's just me

[kimba1]

I hear that quite abit but normally when no african americans are in hear shot. come to think of it .but note I don`t want to give the impression their the least liked group. ironicly African-americans hasn`t made it to the top in a long while. it`s pretty any group (which I won`t mention)that are highly educated and strong family bond and work ethic. meaning an economic threat to ones livelihood.the Chinese made number one once but got knocked off due the 9-11

[Xavier_Onassis]

I know that the trial process is not infallible and that even eyewitness evidence is ofter erroneous. I was not present at Momia's trial, have not followed it and do not care to deal with it in any manner because it is as irrelevant to my life as what Sly Stallone had for breakfast last Tuesday or whether Ted Cruz is wearisn boxers of tighty whities. Even if I knew every single thing about the incident Momia was accused of, I could change nary a thing.

I do not see Momia as any sort of hero. At most he is a crime celebrity. I doubt that most history professors of any race think of him as important to the civil rights struggle. On the other hand, this woman has a right to her opinion and to express it, just as Coulter has the right to say that the doctor who contracted ebola was wrong to go to Africa to help anyone.

[sirs]

And not one soul has indicated or even inferred that she doesn't have a right to her opinion....so why bring that up??   

[Xavier_Onassis]

It serve to piss you off, as apparently, you feel that you have some sort of obligation to tell me what I can and cannot say. This is an erroneous assumption, as you do not.

[sirs]

And yet again...who the hell says you can't say whatever it is you want to say??  You can deflect until you turn blue, for all I care.  Just don't think it gets you some pass from that tactic being spotlighted.  Good gravy

[Xavier_Onassis]

But look how much it pisses you off.

[sirs]

LOL....and look how much wrong again you are.   

Seriously....how much more debate worthy this place could be, if you focused even half of this misguided energy in deflecting from serious points being made, to either debating those points, or at least trying to defend your side.  The systemic knee jerk effort of simply trying to demonize the other side as your defense, more than highlights the apparent emptiness you and your side has in its debate quiver