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sirs

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The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« on: July 30, 2014, 05:55:43 PM »
The IRS is predicting that health insurance for the typical American family will be $20,000 per year by 2016. How can middle class Americans possibly hope to spend $20,000 on health insurance and have anything left for food, housing, and basic transportation?
 
By mandating that we buy health insurance from billion-dollar insurance companies, the Obama Administration is handing health insurance companies 20 to 40 million new customers, and in many cases, the government is paying the bill. Where does the government get the money? Middle class taxpayers. Just ask the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), which projects that over $1 trillion will be redistributed from taxpayers to insurance companies

Thank you Obama and the Democrat party, that had to push this monstrous legislative Governmental overreach, on a pure party line vote, in order to "see what was in it"
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 10:54:36 PM »
  They will very likely claim to be getting more from the top 5% or even the top 1%.

     Unfortunately even when they do soak the very rich pretty hard , tax increases have a greater effect on the middle class.

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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 12:42:01 PM »
Exactly....but that's never reported, is it.  Only how the middle class is suffering, but never why they're suffering.  and since the rich don't suffer as much, they're supposedly the "boogieman", not the actual cause of the suffering
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 10:52:23 AM »
The middle class is suffering because their jobs have been replaced by robots, and those remaining with jobs have not been rewarded because their productivity has risen, since the available labor pool means that they can easily be replaced. The top1% are the ones reaping nearly all of the benefits. We have come close to returning to the bad old days of the Panic OF 1893.
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 12:12:12 PM »
The amount of jobs "replaced by robots" is a mere fraction of the job market.  Restaurant owners don't use robots.  Target stores don't use robots.  It's one of the greatst uses of rationalization to try and explain the destruction of the middle class, while trying to avoid the massive elephant-sized donkey standing in the middle of the room.  POLICY is what's destroying the middle class in this country.  Not robots.  And simply trying to turn the 1% into a middle class person misses the entire point of who's actually paying the vast amount of Government function
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 03:00:04 PM »
Restaurant waiters and Target clerks are barely middle class even in the best of times.

There is no policy that would have prevented this, other than laws against robots or exporting manufacturing jobs to China.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 03:27:25 PM »
That's the thing....POLICY IS WHAT'S DRIVING THE DESTRUCTION.  And this isn't about robots, so we can dispence with the attempted diversion.  It's not that more policy is needed.  Its that LESS policy is needed. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 05:05:55 PM »
What policies are you referring to? There have been no major changes since the Juniorbush tax cuts.
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 05:25:09 PM »
Just off the top of my head,

1) Obamacare
2) Out of control Federal Spending, which both slows any chance for economic growth and lesses our ability to deal with unforseen fiscal emergencies
3) Out of control border enforcement (increased tax payer cost to social services, payed for again mostly by the middle class)
4) Increased Corporate taxes (cost being passed on to the lower & middle class who can least afford it)
5) all other froms of tax increases that in turn weaken the buying power of the dollar, again affecting the lower and middle class much more, although the lower class often receive subsidies, most often payed for by the middle class
6) Did I mention, Obamacare and the $20000+ financial obligation, per household, to pay for this so-called "Affordable" Care Act?

Those are just the biggies under this President.  There's a whole host of other, but just as punitive policies,, especially out of the EPA, hitting the middle class, and none of them have absolutely anything to do with "robots"
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 01:46:13 AM »
None of that is any real reason for the lack of jobs. That is just a lot of Foxcrap and you know it.
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 10:33:15 AM »
This isn't about jobs...this is about the destruction of the middle class, not to mention is a definitive reason for a lack of jobs.  Couldn't notice how you couldn't refute them either.  I thank you     8)
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 05:51:54 PM »
The destruction of the middle class is HELLO because they cannot get middle class jobs and end up with crappy part time gigs waitressing and clerking with zero benefits, or5 cannot find any jobs at all. And blaming Obama for this is idiocy. A career you are sublimely designed for.
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 06:45:17 PM »
And still unable to refute the points made...just name call.  Welcome back, Professor Deflection
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 06:59:47 PM »
You have made ZERO points.

All you have done is regurgitated the usual foxcrapola.

The middle class has not been destroyed by Obamacare. There has not been time enough for Obamacare to have effected it in any damned way.
Go deflect yourself.
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Re: The Destruction of the Middle Class is nearly complete.
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 07:55:01 PM »
Actually, that'd be you making ZERO rebuttal, regurgitating the ususal diversion efforts to avoid addressing the points being made.  For those actually paying attention, those again would be:

1) Obamacare, and the $20000+ financial obligation, per household, per the CBO, to pay for this so-called "Affordable" Care Act
2) Out of control Federal Spending, which both slows any chance for economic growth and lesses our ability to deal with unforseen fiscal emergencies
3) Out of control border enforcement (increased tax payer cost to social services, payed for again mostly by the middle class)
4) Increased Corporate taxes (cost being passed on to the lower & middle class who can least afford it)
5) all other froms of tax increases that in turn weaken the buying power of the dollar, again affecting the lower and middle class much more, although the lower class often receive subsidies, most often payed for by the middle class
6) Did I mention, Obamacare?
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle