James Brady

[Plane]

http://news.msn.com/us/james-brady-former-white-house-press-secretary-dies-at-73-1


     I disagreed with James Brady on one important issue, but , he was a good guy.

[sirs]

May he RIP

May the Dems NOT try to exploit his death towards a political agenda of more gun control

[Xavier_Onassis]

God forbid that some guy who was shot and suffered because of some gun nut ever be a symbol that gun nuts should be deprived of guns.

Now if Reagan had actually DIED as a result of a gun nut.,  and sensible registration laws had been passed at the national level, that would have been his greatest legacy, even though it is doubtful it would have been seen for several decades.

[sirs]

Gun "nuts" should absolutely be deprived of guns.  The problem here though is if the left gets to decide the parameters of who a "gun nut", then pretty much everyone is at risk of being stripped of their constitutional rights to own a firearm.  I think xo is on record of claiming I'm one.  I know bsb is also on record of proclaiming that

You see professor, folks like myself, also want guns deprived of those who would actively try to kill others.  Your approach however is often far to wide in scope, affecting far more law abiding citizens vs specifically trying to keep guns out of the hands of those who really pose a threat

[Xavier_Onassis]

I would be all for preventing Hinckley from owning his guns before the act, and you would not.

[sirs]

Umm, no you'd be wrong....(no surprise there).  How do you identify Hinkley as a "gun nut", and thus prevented from purchasing a gun legally?

[Xavier_Onassis]

He was a nut, then he bought this gun. Had he not been allowed to buy the gun, he would never have become a "gun nut".

[sirs]

Let's try this again.....how do you determine who's a "gun nut", that is intending on killing, and thus preventing him from legally purchasing a gun, before he kills??  This isn't the movie the Minority Report. 

So, let's see what you'd propose that doesn't do exactly as I said you folks would do...some blanket blockage preventing perfectly responsible and sane folks from their constitutional right to own a firearm

[Plane]

    I don't believe that Hinckley deserves to be described with  as friendly and positive a term as "gun nut".

    A lot of people are nuts over classic cars , guns , objects of art, antiques , et cetra, this is usually positive and constructive, at worst is possibly wasteful.

    Hinckley was empowered by a rather non-interesting gun, his choice of ammunition was a mistake for his purposes. Thank God for a bit of well placed ignorance.

      Background checks are generally regarded as reasonable , even the NRA supports them, but who is responsible for putting people on the blacklist?

      Any measure can be carried past reasonable limits, there are anti-gun nuts in existence who would put practically everyone on the blacklist.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I thought Hinckley's failure was due to his poor aim, or perhaps a cop or Brady jumping in from of Reagan. His gun seemed to be in fine working order.

cars, objects of art and antiques are rarely used in assassinations. It would have been more amusing had he attacked Reagan with a Ming Dynasty vase or a Loius XIV bureau, but surely less effective.

[sirs]

Lemme try again, since you were in error the 1st go around, in claiming how I'd apparently have no problem arming Hinkley in preparation for his assassination attempt....how do you determine who's a "gun nut", that is intending on killing, and thus preventing him from legally purchasing a gun, before he kills??   

What is it that you'd propose that doesn't do exactly as I said you folks would do...some blanket blockage preventing perfectly responsible and sane folks from their constitutional right to own a firearm, in the hopes it keeps someone from simply acquiring their firearm illegally

[sirs]

Ouch.....yet again, more facts that run counter to an already made-up mind of what is, supposedly is     

[Xavier_Onassis]

Hinckley should not have been allowed to own guns or ammo.

[sirs]

Yea, monday morning QB'ing is all well and good, but does nothing to address the question posed or the error you made in claiming what I'd do.  Are you punting then, as in you have no answer, not to mention acknowledging your error in what I'd be ok with?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Hinckley should v=never have been allowed to own a gun or ammo. That is a simple enough statement. Not an erroneous one.