Michael Brown Alleged to have robbed convenience store before he was killed

[Plane]

   How important is letting the public know the facts?


    How important is releasing facts sooner rather than later?

[Xavier_Onassis]

The police delayed too long in releasing the facts that it had, and the way it eventually did release them seems to have caused more rioting.
The important thing is that there be an impartial jury that has all the facts.

Some police have excellent hunches. Others have bad hunches. Policing is not the same in reality as it is in novels and on TV shows.

[sirs]

So basically, dammed if they do and damned if they don't.  Is that how it works?  They needed to release that Brown was a thug & a thief, ASAP, and that would have lessened the rioting?  really?

[Xavier_Onassis]

They should have released the name of the officer immediately.

They could have released the other stuff as facts became known.

Doing it all at once made them look deceitful and self-serving.

[sirs]

They should have released the name of the officer immediately.

So they also should have released the video of Brown robbing the store immediately as well, right??

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is unclear that the person in the store video was Brown. The face was unrecognizable.
They could have released it if they said it was an ALLEGED film of Brown.

[sirs]

It is VERY clear that the person in the video is Brown.  Same build, same shirt, same hat, same FRIEND.

So, the video of Brown robbing this store, just prior to the confrontation, should have been released immediately, correct?  Or is it only information putting the officer at risk.  That's perfectly acceptable??

[Xavier_Onassis]

Putting the officer at risk, get serious. Where has this lame excuse ever been used?
The intent was not to tell anyone anything i  hopes that the whole thing would just go away.

What needs to happen is a series of depositions by everyone who saw anything.  It is irrelevant to the final outcome when each tidbit of news was announced until all of it is known. Then a chronology might or might not point to a cover up or some other sort of inappropriate behavior.

Like the Zimmerman case, this will fill the media full of nonsense and counternonsense for far longer than is necessary or useful, with the usual blather about "playing the race card", as though it is not mostly about race.

[Plane]

  We still do not know how badly the officer was hurt.

  If his hurt is quite severe , the shooting might seem more reasonable.

  A  face so broken that death seems a whisper away would fully justify deadly force to stop an ongoing beating.

    If this turns out to be an angry cop with a fat lip shooting a retreating guy , that is quite different.

    So why are we waiting for this sort of information?

     Maybe there is a reason to be coy , but it better be good, they must tell us eventually.

      The jury pool is already contaminated all the way to Singapore.

[sirs]

Putting the officer at risk, get serious.

I am......did you read where a name of an officer was released, but it was't this officer, and immediately that officer began getting death threats.  So what the frell is accomplished in getting this officer's name out so fast as possible??

The intent was not to tell anyone anything i  hopes that the whole thing would just go away.

SERIOUSLY??  You really think this was going to "go away" if the officer's name wasn't released, ASAP?  That's some serious stuff you must be smoking.  So, how has that worked out??      

What needs to be done is to allow an investigation be completed minus the hyperbole & predisposed judgement that this officer simply shot Brown because he was Black and menacing

[Xavier_Onassis]

The idea that a jury should be composed of people totally ignorant of everything is a faulty one. The original idea of having a "jury of peers" was so that every person on the jury could relate, as a member of the community. This crap about how a jury should be selected among deaf mute hermits is the idea of lawyers. Lawyers are enemies of fairness in trials as much as they are allies. They are not interested in the truth: they are interested in THEIR truth, and try to suppress that of the other side. They attempt to get the most ignorant fools on a jury that they can, so they can propagandize them. It is a faulty system and it does not serve this country well at all. A three judge panel of  impartial trained jurists as used in the Netherlands, is far better.
 There may not even be a trial, though I think it is more likely that there will be one. It has become a "celebrity trial", and people will run about saying that "America is on trial" or worse that "Black America is on trial" and White America is on trial".

[Xavier_Onassis]

I did not think it would "go away" if the officer's name was not revealed. I said that this seems to have been the true motive of the cops for not releasing it. There are lots of ways to prevent the cop from being lynched and such. I think that there was a disagreement between the police chief and the mayor and the result was inaction. Perhaps they thought it would all blow over. Things like this have blown over in the past.  You have not heard of them because they have blown over.

[sirs]

Again, who in their right mind would have believed this would "go away" if the officer's name wasn't released ASAP??  This was going to be investigated thoroughly without all the racial tension.  The added tension fueled by folks like JJ & Sharpton, declaring how they already know that Brown was murdered in cold blood, literally puts a bounty on this officer's head.

Now again, what the frell does it accomplish to get this officer's name out lickety split??  This event wasn't going anywhere, nor blowever  The case wasn't going to just sit on some 74year old investigator's desk.

[Christians4LessGvt]

How important is letting the public know the facts?
How important is releasing facts sooner rather than later?

I must say I can not understand the logic of withholding
that the officer had serious injuries from the incident.

If the officer was badly injured and treated at a hospital
why was that information not released with photos asap?

In my mind that would have really helped better frame
what happened and lessened the riots/protests.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I have heard many tales of police abuse, and the officer's name was always mentioned. We do not know there were death threats. We know that the police SAY there were death threats. The cop either had a fracture or he did not have a fracture: both tales are circulating.

Why did they not release photos? Perhaps there were no injuries to photograph. Or perhape they did not want to show the world what the cop looked like, again, to protect him.

The fact is that until ALL the information is collected, making any judgements is premature, and useless, since there will be no penalties or rewards for the public's comments.