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Plane

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I am encouraged that there was a try.
« on: August 20, 2014, 10:11:05 PM »
U.S. military tried, but failed to rescue James Foley and other American hostages
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The U.S. military earlier this year carried out an attempt to rescue journalist James Foley and other American hostages held in Syria, a U.S. official said on Wednesday, in an operation that the Pentagon said ultimately failed to find the captives.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/

   I would not like to write off even the most difficult rescues.

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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 01:20:24 PM »
2 things come to mind
1) why now
2) credibility

It would seem 1) would be to try and placate the masses that something was attempted, but alas, Foley and other captured folks were not located (talk about bad intel)

But 2) is the more cynical and likely accurate scenario, in that how do we know anything was done?  This is the same agency that proclaimed if you like your insurance and doctor, you can keep it, ...period.  The same agency that proclaimed it was going to be the most transparent administration ever.  The same group that drew one line in the sand, after another, only to sit back and watch Syria step all over them.

Without some hard evidence that such an action took place, the "word" of any U.S. official connected to this administration holds no credibility.
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 01:23:04 PM »
Yes.

There is a lot of paradox involved.

For instance , the more successful the CIA is , the less you hear of them.

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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 01:29:18 PM »
So true
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 09:05:17 PM »
When the CIA screws up and there are tons of blowback, it also stays hidden for a long, long time. Then they pretend that no, it never happened, they hate us for our freedoms.
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 10:07:51 PM »
Examples being..............?
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2014, 10:32:37 PM »
When the CIA screws up and there are tons of blowback, it also stays hidden for a long, long time. Then they pretend that no, it never happened, they hate us for our freedoms.

  No , that is what we do hear about , when they fail.

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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 06:34:03 AM »
Deposing Mossadegh in the 50's and installing the nasty little Shah was a prime example.

Teaching the Uruguayan military government to torture citizens in the 1970's was another.

Helping the Brazilian military depose elected governments twice was another.

The CIA does not act to defend the American people. It has acted to defend business interests.

This rescue, by the way, was NOT attempted by the CIA, it was a military operation.

I am all for rescuing journalists, but that is not what the CIA does.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 08:04:58 AM by Xavier_Onassis »
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 01:35:38 PM »
Who said it was being run by the CIA??
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 01:43:38 PM »
Plane mentioned the CIA.

It should not be difficult for you to figure that one out without playing "Mr Stupid Question Man".

All it would appear to entail is basic literacy.
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2014, 01:53:18 PM »
Mentioning the CIA, is not the same as saying this operation was being run by the CIA.  You'd think a linguistic professor would grasp the difference.  Apparently not
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2014, 01:58:36 PM »
I did not say that the CIA was involved in the atten=mpted rescue. I said exactly the opposite, dumbass.
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2014, 02:05:15 PM »
You just corrected Plane for something he never said, dumbass
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2014, 02:16:04 PM »
I did not say that Plane said that this was a CIA operation.
I said that he was the one who brought it up.

I said he "mentioned" the CIA. I did not say he should have or should not have.

I said you were too effing stupid to see how the topic of the CIA entered this conversation.

Now you wish to demonstrate that you are also too stupid to realize that mentioning the CIA is not the same as correcting him for mentioning it.

You excel at being a contentious moron. You are the stooge that gets hit the most often with the plank and who attracts the most pies.
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Re: I am encouraged that there was a try.
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2014, 02:49:21 PM »
I did not say that Plane said that this was a CIA operation.
I said that he was the one who brought it up.

Yet there you are correcting a point that was never made, that the CIA wasn't behind any alledged rescue attempt, when no one sait or even inferred it was.  We thank you for your contributuion

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle