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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 11:41:58 PM »
I would say that if you truly love someone, you do not invent horrible diseases to inflict on them.

My cat often ignored me all the time. She showed no affection at all. And yet, I did not feel obliged to send her to the fires of hell for this.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2014, 04:13:08 PM »
  What did you create your cat to do?

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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2014, 06:25:58 PM »
I did not create my cat at all. But if I HAD, I would not have tortured her. I just allowed her to be catlike on her own terms.
If I had created my cat, perhaps I would have made her slightly different, but I am pretty sure I would not have told her, "you may eat of all the kittyfood and tuna in this kitchen, but of the tuna of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shall not eat, lest thee surely will die."

God in the Old Testament is a serious hardass. I am a laid-back dude when it comes to my pets.
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2014, 07:11:05 PM »
I did not create my cat at all. But if I HAD, I would not have tortured her. I just allowed her to be catlike on her own terms.
If I had created my cat, perhaps I would have made her slightly different, but I am pretty sure I would not have told her, "you may eat of all the kittyfood and tuna in this kitchen, but of the tuna of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shall not eat, lest thee surely will die."

God in the Old Testament is a serious hardass. I am a laid-back dude when it comes to my pets.

     So you are nothing like Stephen King, who has created thousands of characters, very few of them free of strife and misery.

      It is hardly inconceivable that you might buy  a robot kit and assemble a robot. That has already happened for the very skilled and is coming to the lesser skilled .

      Of course a lot of these robots are devoted to bomb disposal , sewage pipe cleaning or fighting one another like gladiators.

      So if your robot were sophisticated enough to be happy, your policy would be to tape down the happy reward button?

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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2014, 08:53:44 PM »
Stephen King writes novels. His characters have to face difficulties, because a novel that had characters that just sailed through life, like my cat, would be read by no one, and purchased by no one. I have never considered writing a novel called "The Life of Mittens" for precisely that reason. I loved my cat, but it was not because I made a living writing about how she defeated evil beings or warded off Things that Went Bump in the Night.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2014, 09:07:42 PM »
  So if your robot were sophisticated enough to be happy, your policy would be to tape down the happy reward button?

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I would make him to be ever cheerful. He would have no happy reward button.

Again, I find the Deity described in the Old Testament to be a really mean SOB much of the time.
In the New Testament, He is less thoroughly described, but seems much nicer.

The whole idea of original sin is such a bummer.]

The all knowing deity creates a bunch of imperfect beings and is so annoyed by their imperfections that He drowns all but eight of them. Them their descendents disappoint Him so much that He feels obliged to send his Son to die for them. But not really, as the Son does not actually stay dead.

The worst thing about dying is you have to stay dead.  Otherwise, it is just a bad scene, like a roller coaster accident or a buffalo stampede.
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2014, 10:44:43 PM »
  I don't think repeated death is very appealing either.

   Remember Jesus wept over the death of his friend Lazarus, even though he was planning to resurrect him presently.

    I wonder if Lazarus died again?

    My point is not that you should be cruel to your cat, cats seem quite aware that Humans are not awe inspiring creators anyway.

     My point is that we are created to suffer and grow, I am certainly not created to be decorative.

     https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201&version=NIV

      My worst ever hurt was heartbreak, and it hurt me pretty bad.

       But should I be thankful for the process that produces wisdom and patience?

        God did create some creatures that live long peaceful lives with little or no strife or work.

          We call them clams.

            I am not jealous of them.

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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2014, 10:54:44 PM »
If you want to celebrate how wonderful death is like a Goth, that is fine with me.

I choose not to.

The whole allure of the Christian religion is that you gate to live forever, singing eternally in the Choir Celestial.
That sounds far more boring than continuing to live in Earth, even as a clam.
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2014, 11:01:47 PM »
The whole allure of the Christian religion is that you gate to live forever, singing eternally in the Choir Celestial.

  Is that in a scripture somewhere?

    I don't know what the business of heaven is , but God is a busy guy , I expect there will be something going on , and I am promised a better understanding of things.

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2014, 11:11:16 PM »
For something that people are so gaga over, Heaven is far too vaguely defined. I think there is mention of the saved souls getting their bodies back, and spending eternally praising the Lord, which many have assumed is in some musical mode. There are many Christian hymns that speak of singing for eternity. I suppose they were written by people who enjoy singing hymns. I find singing fun to some degree, but more than four hours, and I generally find it be less fun and I quit.

There has to be a lot more going on in Heaven than is described in the Bible, that is for sure.

One could speculate that there will be at least some conflicts over those whose mates have died and who have remarried.  There are several people I am sure that I would not enjoy spending eternity with.
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2014, 11:30:02 PM »


One could speculate that there will be at least some conflicts over those whose mates have died and who have remarried.  There are several people I am sure that I would not enjoy spending eternity with.

  Jesus was asked this specific question.

   He answered it ,so we need not wonder.
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2014, 11:46:52 PM »
That is some answer.
When you die, you are automatically divorced, and there will be no fooling around, you will be like the angels, with no dick.


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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2014, 12:04:16 AM »
   Hahahaha!


     Funny that I didn't read that into it.

     So does this indicate that the dead do not reproduce?

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2014, 01:26:28 AM »
Angels do not reproduce. There are no female angels. Angels have no need to have schlongs. If you are "like an angel" I think it is safe to say that your junk will not work.

I find Jesus' answer disappointing, inadequate, or both.

You should see the film Dogma. Alan Rickman plays Metatron, the voice of God, and he appears in this woman's room in a flash of light and she gets understandably agitated, and tells him that she will not allow him to rape her. Metatron pulls down his pants, and reveals that his crotch looks like that of a  Barbie doll. No nothing.

Dogma also has Chris Rock, who plays the 13th Apostle, the one who not left out of the Bible, because, you know...

It is somewhat theologically in tune with official RC theology. The Pope is played by George Carlin, who makes a great pope.

God ois played by... well, just watch it.

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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2014, 07:05:05 PM »
  So we are just a larval form of a grander creature.