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Plane

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Re: 1st amendment follies
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 10:04:39 PM »
  No.

   Inexperience cures itself.

   
The biggest hurdle to founding a business and to growing a business is government.

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2014, 10:14:04 PM »
Hardly.

I want to start a business here in Miami, and all I needed was a $60 peddler's license.
That was a waste of money, but it was not a difficulty.

I suppose if I were selling food, I would need to have the kitchen inspected. As a customer, I think this is perfectly normal.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2014, 10:37:15 PM »
  There are plenty of useless regulations , obsolete regulations , and wasted taxes.


     If the government really stuck to real improvement of truly needed regulation it would be a facilitator of business starting and maintenance.

   But no , the government seems to be used to suppress competition for the established as often as it does anything else.

     We have a lot of cities in which starting up a taxi business is truly impossible , because the city government is a tool handy to the established taxicab companies,

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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2014, 10:45:06 PM »
  No.

   Inexperience cures itself.
   
The biggest hurdle to founding a business and to growing a business is government.


BINGO!!
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2014, 11:46:47 PM »
The biggest hurdle to having a successful business is not knowing how to run a business. It requires a lot of analysis, data and preparation. Most businesses fail because the owner does not understand how to run the business. The second biggest hurdle is paying the rent. OI doubt that the government is even in the top ten.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2014, 12:00:57 AM »
Before I became a good Physical Therapist, I had to become a Physical Therapist.  Before I could become a PT, I had to graduate with a degree in PT.  Before I could apply to PT school, I had to have experience working in the field as an aide.  Before I could be hired as an aide, I had to have experience working.....as an aide.  You have to start somewhere, and yes, you're going to make mistakes, perhaps substantial ones, when you first start off.  But the lack of experience will limit much of your initial progress. 

But success comes not simply from experience, but from being able to navigate the bureaucratic tsunami, imposed by governments, at all levels, and still make a profit
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2014, 07:59:11 AM »
I don;t see where the government harmed you by doing anything more than assuring that you were competent.

I had to get a BA, and MA and a PhD. I have attended classes in seven universities, two since I got my doctorate.
Now I invest money. Government regulations protect me from being ripped off: all I have to do is know where I am protected and where I am not.
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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2014, 10:21:40 AM »
This had nothing to do with me.  This had everything to do with referencing how experience may play a role in beginning a business, the primary factor in a business becoming successful, as Plane has accurately highlighted, is the impediments imposed by Government, at all levels, local, state, and federal
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2014, 10:50:40 AM »
You apparently have some sort of business. Plane does not.

I have sold stuff in a gift shop, wholesaled stuff to other gift shops and  sold stuff with my wife a flea market. I didn't make a lot of money, when I realized that before Christmas, the best selling season of the year I was making about $4.00 an hour, I sold out and quit. I suppose if I had been desperate, I would not have done this. All my profits were going in rent.  The government posed no problems for me, I declared my puny income and paid taxes on it,

Both you and Plane seem to be infected with the Rightwing Asshole virus, which causes average people to think like multizillionaires. It is a common American affliction: poor hardscrabble farmers died for the Confederacy because they did not want to lose the opportunity to become plantation owners, with slaves and all that.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2014, 12:12:59 PM »
The amount of wrong you manage to accomplish is quite staggering.  No, I don't have a business, I have experience...it had to start somewhere.  The point being that experience isn't the key to success.  It's a factor, and definately not the key to starting a business, as that's specifically relating to NOT having had experience

Speaking of infected, best refill that prescription drawer of yours, and get back to us when you're ready to respond rationally to current reality
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2014, 12:43:07 PM »
One of the symptoms is the inability to see the truth.

***BINGO!***
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2014, 01:21:54 PM »
Truth of course in this case, this nearly pathological record you have at being wrong, in so many issues political

Case in point...what is this supposed "truth", as seen and opined thru the eyes of a hard core liberal, am I not seeing?  Specifics here required, as some nebulous claim to "everything" demonstrates absolutely nothing
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2014, 06:32:42 PM »
The truth is, sirs, you do not know diddly about starting a business.
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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2014, 07:11:43 PM »
You're right, I don't.  That requires I start one, then the experience begins.  Success occrs when that would-be business owner leans to navigate all the local, state, and federal land mines imposed by Government
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2014, 07:30:05 PM »
  I have recently been told that it is easier to start a business in Communist China than in the USA.

    This was not always true .

    According to TIME magazine this week 4% of Americans are self employed.

      This was not always the way either.

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Immigrants accounted for more than 16 percent (25.7 million) of the 157.6 million workers in the civilian labor force in 2012. Between 1970 and 2012, the percentage of foreign-born workers in the civilian labor force tripled, from 5 percent to 16 percent. Over the same period, the foreign-born share of the total population grew from almost 5 percent to nearly 13 percent.http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states

      That is a recent development too.

      How come we have nine or ten percent unemployment , but need to import sixteen percent of our workforce?

       Really it is easy to believe that if the government got off the back of the employers and potential employers we could have 100% employment the next day.

        Then , after that , if we hired fifteen percent of México's population  , it would not feel like hurt.