Even Forbes says Obamacare will not be repealed

[Plane]

  I have had Blue Cross for years , and I was happy with it .

  The Affordable health care act has driven up its cost and driven down its payout.

    Health Care insurance is not a government invention, Blue Cross is the original article .

  The government taking it over is not necessarily going to be any improvement at all, the failure can be total.

    But right now it is only a partial failure , there are about 5% more people covered than were before.

     But the unemployed are not affected , and the employed are paying more for their insurance than 5% more.

      I understand that the idea was to take control and refine later, but this is a wrong notion too. The smashing style of taking over has broken what has evolved over 70 years or so into a system that had 80% satisfied customers, and put in control a loose committee of hundreds of inexpert legislators , more motivated for preserving incumbency than service to customers. The later refinement will have the same problems of poor focus and improper motive that the original act has had.

        Last I heard the public is nearly evenly divided , but the side unhappy with the AHCA is growing .

         The adjustment that the AHCA needs is such severe pruning that perhaps repeal and starting over would be less wasted effort?

[sirs]

Brilliant response,  Master Yoda.         

[sirs]

      right now it is only a partial failure , there are about 5% more people covered than were before.

     But the unemployed are not affected , and the employed are paying more for their insurance than 5% more.

      I understand that the idea was to take control and refine later, but this is a wrong notion too. The smashing style of taking over has broken what has evolved over 70 years or so into a system that had 80% satisfied customers, and put in control a loose committee of hundreds of inexpert legislators , more motivated for preserving incumbency than service to customers. The later refinement will have the same problems of poor focus and improper motive that the original act has had.

         The adjustment that the AHCA needs is such severe pruning that perhaps repeal and starting over would be less wasted effort?

Just wanted to refresh what was such a great response to begin with

[Xavier_Onassis]

NO, THEY WILL NOT ABOLISH THE WHOLE THING AND START OVER, THAT WOULD BE DUMB.

[sirs]

Politically dumb....for Democrats perhaps.  But IF the goal were to help facilitate coverage for folks who were largely uninsured because of prexisting conditions, it should absolutely be dismantled, with the refocus on making that happen, without destroying the healthcare coverage that 80+% of the rest of the population was ok with....you know, the promise that if you liked your insurance, and you liked your Doctor, you could keep them.....PERIOD....no other qualifiers or parameters.

Of course, that was never the goal now, was it

[Xavier_Onassis]

Who cares?

I would have been able to keep my doctor.

[sirs]

Of course you don't care. 

And you would be of a small minority, which explains why Obamination care is so widely dispised by a majority of the country

[Plane]

NO, THEY WILL NOT ABOLISH THE WHOLE THING AND START OVER, THAT WOULD BE DUMB.

Why?

It was not dumb to knock over three quarters of a century of evolution ?

Nipping this now will be easier than later , and if we need something new perhaps this is not it.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Who knocked over three centuries of evolution?

What the Hell are you talking about?

[sirs]

3/4 of a century is a scant 75-years, "professor".  Not 300

[Plane]

http://www.bcbs.com/blog/health-insurance.html

History of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Companies
Posted by MARC LICHTENSTEIN
Health insurance didn’t always exist.
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1910: Early forerunners of Blue health insurance plans appeared as pre-paid group practices. Plan members paid a monthly premium and received a wide range of medical services through an exclusive group of providers.
1929: Blue Cross Plans are established to provide pre-paid hospital care, based on a prototype developed at Baylor University in Dallas, Texas by Justin Ford Kimball. In just 10 years, enrollment in these plans will grow from just more than 1,300 covered lives to 3 million. E.A. van Steenwyk, executive secretary with the forerunner to Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota, identified his hospital care program with a solid blue Greek cross design. The symbol began to show up in other parts of the country and soon, as one historian has written, the Blue Cross “perpetuated itself as a unifying force” among the newly emerging Plans.
1930: Blue Shield Plans begin providing reimbursement for physician services. The Blue Shield symbol was devised in Buffalo, New York. Carl Metzger, an early pioneer in the Blue movement, wanted a company brand logo that would distinguish the new medical service plan. He also wanted to make sure that there was an obvious link to the companion hospital plan. It soon flourished among the growing number of Blue Shield Plans.
1935: The National Labor Relations Act was the catalyst for employer-based health insurance, as it was now seen as an effective and valuable benefit to workers. Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies begin to empower more working Americans to access the healthcare system, some for the first time in their lives.



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The whole article is pretty good.


Looks like I was wrong about the time , more like one century rather than three quarters of one.

[Xavier_Onassis]

No matter what you say, Obamacare will NOT be entirely repealed. Most of it will remain, some will be modified.

[Plane]

No matter what you say, Obamacare will NOT be entirely repealed. Most of it will remain, some will be modified.

  Shure , there are about ten features that everyone likes, this popular part could be written on a post card.


    Lets save that bit, and save the trees from all that useless part.