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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 07:07:10 PM »
Well
It really depend which definition were talking about. On my end it seems racist means not black.

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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 08:26:37 PM »
:La Raza is not a racist group. It is a Mexican pride group more like the NAACP. Mexico is a country that was bedeviled by actual racism for many years. The Whites owned almost everything and the Mestizos were seen as savages. The Whites and the Church  delivered the nation to the French under Napoleon III in 1862, and they put an Austrian on the throne as Emperor Maximilian I. When the US Civil War ended in 1865, the cost of weapons plummetted and the constitutional president, Benito Juarez, a Zapotec Indian from Oaxaca, defeated Maximillian, and he was executed in 1867 in Queretaro .

The philosophy behind the La Raza movement came from Mexican thinker Jose Vasconcelos. It is incorporated in the motto of the National Autonumous University of Mexico, the UNAM. Por mi raza hablará el espíritu. "Through my people the spirit will speak." La raza in Mexico refers to the Mexican people, regardless of race.
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 08:52:52 PM »
:La Raza is not a racist group. It is a Mexican pride group more like the NAACP.

Actually, the current manifstation of the NAACP is absoutely a racist group.  Was once a well intentioned organization, has since mutated.  Racism is pushing your race above others, deniegrating other races in the process, the white race in particular, vs MLK's vision that all races be treated equally & respectfully.  That's precisely what many of the folks connected with the NAACP subscribe to
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 12:43:47 AM by sirs »
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 09:24:52 PM »
SIRS.....if a national organization called "The National Association for the Advancement of White People" existed would it be called racist?
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2014, 11:06:23 PM »
If Black people had owned White slaves for 200 years and been lynching White folks for the past 100 years, then, no, the National Association for the Advancement of White People should NOT be considered racist.

However, such is not the case.

There is NOT a state of equality between Blacks and Whites in this country. For every dollar a White family has, a Black family has one dime.
 That is a fact. This is a materialistic country with a consumer economy, so this is of overwhelming importance.

When both have a dollar, both have a dime, or both have fifty cents, then your argument will not be something said by an incredibly stupid and unimaginative person.

Your ignorance of your native country, and the inability of either if you clowns to actually put yourselves in someone else's shoes is  fooking amazing. That is why I do not take either of you seriously.

To do so would be to equate The Old Man and the Sea with the stories of Pud, the fat kid in the toons that came with Double Bubble Bubble Gum, or perhape a Jack Chick Comic.

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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2014, 11:25:23 PM »
SIRS.....if a national organization called "The National Association for the Advancement of White People" existed would it be called racist?

100% Absolutely
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2014, 11:39:13 PM »
   I think that anyone can have a bad attitude.

    Is racism necessarily bad?

    If it is than it isn't a good attitude for anyone to have.

    If it is good  for geese but not ganders , we will just all be geese and point at the ganders that no one will admit to being.

     It is totally possible to justify all sorts of wrong on the basis of previous wrong.

      Since individual minorities have entered to the roles of the top earners and highest seats of power , all of the previously questionable justification of "reverse" racism have become obsolete.

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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2014, 12:47:37 AM »
   I think that anyone can have a bad attitude.

    Is racism necessarily bad?


It is when you're faulting someone else merely because of their skin color......or the skin color of someone long since dead.  You can fault people's actions and choices, but skin color is not a choice. 

And reverse racism is just as bad, regardless of the upside-down justification that its ok, because racist acts were done to their ancesters before.  That ever famous cliche', 2 wrongs, don't make a right, fits in nicely here

   
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 12:02:58 PM by sirs »
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2014, 07:25:42 PM »
Since individual minorities have entered to the roles of the top earners and highest seats of power , all of the previously questionable justification of "reverse" racism have become obsolete.


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When this is proportional to their percentage in the population, this might be true.

But such is not even close to being the case, so this is a bogus statement.
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2014, 07:37:59 PM »
Since individual minorities have entered to the roles of the top earners and highest seats of power , all of the previously questionable justification of "reverse" racism have become obsolete.


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When this is proportional to their percentage in the population, this might be true.

But such is not even close to being the case, so this is a bogus statement.


  I refuse to accept that it cannot be fixed at all.

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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2014, 07:39:58 PM »
Since individual minorities have entered to the roles of the top earners and highest seats of power , all of the previously questionable justification of "reverse" racism have become obsolete.

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When this is proportional to their percentage in the population, this might be true.

But such is not even close to being the case, so this is a bogus statement.


Racism is racism, be it white on black, black on white, or pick a color on another color.  Its wrong in any form, and no amount of trying to claim it happened badly 1 way back then makes it ok now the other way, makes it ok in any way. 

It has nothing to do with proportion....racism is racism, whether its thousands of white against black back then or 1 case of black against white now.  What's bogus is to try and justify it as being ok now, because it happenend worse before in the other direction. 

Racism is Racism
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2014, 07:42:40 PM »
And you understand nothing about it and how it dwells within your very core.
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2014, 07:45:14 PM »
Given I actually have a grasp of the english language, the definition of words, and the actions of others, I understand it completely.  My "core" is irrelevant
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Re: Being truthful does not make you racist!
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2014, 07:47:56 PM »
And you understand nothing about it and how it dwells within your very core.

Ah, the pot calls the kettle black.