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Why the Senate matters
« on: October 03, 2014, 05:09:49 PM »
Krauthammer had a great piece today that's been echoing my commentary regarding the so-called do nothing Republicans, which in reality has been the do nothing Senate/Reid, since its been the GOP that's been pasing bill after bill after bill after bill.  The left and Obama had their "liberal hope & socialist change" agenda derailed in 2010, shortly after they rammed that crap legislation, Obamination care, down our throats with their pure party-line manuevers.

As a result of taking the House in 2010, the Republicans have effectvely stopped that run-away train, though the damage was pretty much done by then.  With the retaking of the Senate, the GOP can then start actually passing legislation, and demonstrating its ability to govern.  The left and Obama can cry all day & night that such legislation is "extreme", "radical", "beholden to the evil Koch Brothers and NRA", and declare how the GOP needs to "compromise", when we all know that the term "compromise" to the left is doing what they demand, but just not as fast as they'd want it.  That's what Reid's tactics have been all about.  If it all all places vulnerable democrats in any political unsavory election waters, by having to chose between towing the party line or representing the will of his constituents, he just won't allow it for a vote, and then claim how the Kochs made him do it

It sets up for the electorate a chance to see actual Constitutional Governing.  And in those next 2 years, leading up to 2016, can have some key legislation poised to pass, that will undo all the garbage & damage wrought upon us with Obamination care, and transition the masses onto far more cost friendly and policy friendly health care programs, NOT controlled by the Government, as soon as President Jindal/Walker/Ryan/Carson is sworn in
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 08:29:30 PM »
Under supposedly conservative president Reagan in 1984, the top 3% of the people controlled 40% of all the wealth in this country.
Now, under supposedly Socialistic President Obama, the top 3% controls 45% of the wealth.

This was on PBS news tonight.

Kraurthammer, like the entire Conservative movement and the Teabaggers as well, are full of crap.
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 08:49:27 PM »
Under supposedly conservative president Reagan in 1984, the top 3% of the people controlled 40% of all the wealth in this country.
Now, under supposedly Socialistic President Obama, the top 3% controls 45% of the wealth.

This was on PBS news tonight.


Wow...what a massive indictment on this supposed President of the people.  Crony Capitalism at some of its worst.  Can everyone say Solyndra?  I knew you could   Thank you for that highlight, xo. 

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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2014, 09:39:02 AM »
You are full of recycled crap.
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2014, 01:36:45 PM »
Way to avoid the subject, you yourself brought up.  Bravo
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2014, 05:37:46 PM »
Under supposedly conservative president Reagan in 1984, the top 3% of the people controlled 40% of all the wealth in this country.
Now, under supposedly Socialistic President Obama, the top 3% controls 45% of the wealth.

This was on PBS news tonight.

Kraurthammer, like the entire Conservative movement and the Teabaggers as well, are full of crap.


What does this mean to you?


To me it seems a symptom of the government being a weight on the middle class.

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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2014, 06:15:51 PM »
Current policies in place are actually destroying that class
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2014, 06:53:57 PM »
  The same effect can also be had by an increase in the lowest earners and the unemployed.

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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2014, 11:43:33 AM »
Cut corporate taxes, and shift the burden to the Middle Class, that is what the Koch really want.
Good for the Koch's balance sheets for a year or so, ruinous for the American middle class.
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2014, 12:16:46 PM »
There'd be no "burden shift", if supply & demand, and normal capitalist policies were reinstated vs insidious regulation and crony capitalism that currently exist.  This is not an economic vacuum.  Providing for a more financially successful arena for business leads business to be more finanically giving to the job market, in more jobs, higher wages, higher satisfaction.  EVERYONE wins

This pathological need to punish successful businesses, for daring to make a profit, is really unhealthy.  Especially when they're doing so legally.  And then when I mention Soros in a few lines, you get all hot and steamy about them siphening my gas, while you and Reid apparently have the Koch's sleeping under your bed, as many times as you use them as the go-to booogeymen

If you really want to look at the biggest enemy to the middle class, you need look no further than Obmanination care.  But adding to that, any and all policies that "the rich" can afford, while "the poor" are subsidized by tax payers, places any finanacial burden directly on the middle class.

Or is that the real goal.....abolishment of "the rich"?
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2014, 11:38:12 AM »
Taxes are not a punishment, that is idiotic.

Taxes are payment for needed and necessary services.

Saying taxes are a punishment  by government is like saying that Kroger is punishing you when they make you pay for groceries.

Your mind is capable of insane warpings of logic.
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2014, 12:07:38 PM »
Increasing taxes on 1 group is indeed punishment.  We already have a progressive tax system.  There's no need to keep increasing them when it's been factually demonstrating time and time and time again, the detriment to any production, job growth, and most importantly, employment
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2014, 09:57:25 PM »
  Taxation is a power.

   It can be used as punishment , or as an instrument of social change ,redistribution of wealth, elimination of undesirables and many other uses.

   If it were possible to legislate a rule such that all taxes may be purposed for would be the needful funding of the government and all other purposes were voided , I would be for it.

   A rule like that would be grounds to appeal a lot of taxes that cost nearly as much to administer as they produce in revenue.

    Alas , no such rule is likely at all, Congress is not likely to be eager to give up one of its major powers , even though hatred of the IRS is so nearly universal and so strong.

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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2014, 11:37:16 PM »
BINGO!!

(and for others who require some clarification, that'd be sirs again, noting that someone else was right)
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Re: Why the Senate matters
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2014, 09:40:57 AM »
Taxation is NOT punishment. That is inane.

Individuals pay more than corporations, anyway.

You rightwing assholes want for corporations to pay NOTHING.
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