Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President

[sirs]

Other people's reproductive systems are none of your goddamned beeswax.

And other people's vaccination choices are none of yours.

But Ami, hard core leftists & libs think it is     

[R.R.]

I WOULDN"T vote for him. The litmus test is abortion;

But Giuliani has said he would appoint Justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas. He forcefully defended Roberts and Alito when they were nominated.

[Xavier_Onassis]

And other people's vaccination choices are none of yours.
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Yes, they are, because infectious diseases are EVERYONE's concern.
 
 

[Plane]

And other people's vaccination choices are none of yours.
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Yes, they are, because infectious diseases are EVERYONE's concern.
 
 

Eradication campaigns get widespread support , lots of people like them.

And that is enough , it is not nesscery to immunise every holdout , the hard to persuede do not need to be forced.

[Amianthus]

Yes, they are, because infectious diseases are EVERYONE's concern.

So are babies. It takes a village, remember?

[sirs]

And other people's vaccination choices are none of yours.
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Yes, they are, because infectious diseases are EVERYONE's concern.

They're only infectious if one CHOOSES to make it so.  Otherwise it's controlled withOUT any vaccination.  Can't say that about other infectious diseases, such as Smallpox & Measles

So, no, it's not your business

[_JS]

They're only infectious if one CHOOSES to make it so.  Otherwise it's controlled withOUT any vaccination.

You mean like HIV is controlled?

Let's face it, kids make stupid mistakes. I truly don't understand the problem here. And yes I know the whole libertarian argument over "mandatory" or not. But that surely isn't the underlying issue to this argument. I'd file that up there with whether wearing seatbelts should be "mandatory" or not.

Who cares?

There is something more here. What is the real issue?

[Amianthus]

But that surely isn't the underlying issue to this argument. I'd file that up there with whether wearing seatbelts should be "mandatory" or not.

According to those opposed to mandatory vaccinations, yeah, it is.

There is something more here. What is the real issue?

People want to claim that opposing mandatory vaccinations is the same thing as "wanting women to get cancer." And since the tiny group that is opposed to mandatory vaccinations seems to be mostly conservative, all of a sudden, it's "all Republicans want women to get cancer."

[sirs]

They're only infectious if one CHOOSES to make it so.  Otherwise it's controlled withOUT any vaccination.

You mean like HIV is controlled?  Let's face it, kids make stupid mistakes. I truly don't understand the problem here. And yes I know the whole libertarian argument over "mandatory" or not. But that surely isn't the underlying issue to this argument. I'd file that up there with whether wearing seatbelts should be "mandatory" or not.  There is something more here.  What is the real issue?

Choice, parental control vs Governmental control.  It can't be made much simpler, aside from the demented twist that opposing mandatory vaccinations = pro-cancer.  Yea, and it is about it being made mandatory or not.  Yea, and it is related to STD, though I've seen nothing that indicates it prevents HIV.  Could you share that study with us?

[_JS]

OK. Well then I'll politely bow out as this is a bit too banal for my personal taste in debates.

You all have at it

[sirs]

OK. Well then I'll politely bow out as this is a bit too banal for my personal taste in debates.  You all have at it

Not going to take a stand on Parental control vs Government control?  No studies on how the new vaccine prevents HIV?   tsk, tsk, tsk     

[_JS]

No studies on how the new vaccine prevents HIV?

Never in my life have I made a claim that there exists a vaccine for HIV. I'd appreciate a little honesty.

Not going to take a stand on Parental control vs Government control?

I'm not going to get into an argument that is the equivalent of whether or not wearing one's seat belt should be mandatory. I honestly just do not care enough to be bothered with it. As I said, it is just too banal.

[sirs]

No studies on how the new vaccine prevents HIV?

Never in my life have I made a claim that there exists a vaccine for HIV. I'd appreciate a little honesty.

Umm, excuse me, you did bring HIV into this dicussion, as we were debating the vaccine.  Thank you very much

Not going to take a stand on Parental control vs Government control?

I'm not going to get into an argument that is the equivalent of whether or not wearing one's seat belt should be mandatory. I honestly just do not care enough to be bothered with it. As I said, it is just too banal.

Government telling you what injection you're going to give to your child is "banal"?  OK