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Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« on: February 12, 2007, 12:02:01 AM »
"I used gun control as mayor," he said at a news conference Saturday during a swing through California. But "I understand the Second Amendment. I understand the right to bear arms."

He said what he did as mayor would have no effect on hunting.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070211/ap_on_el_pr/on_the2008_trail;_ylt=ApvXUxo_0d2ONQ_WweiOO.5h24cA


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I really expected him to last longer than this.

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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 03:52:33 PM »
his "handlers" are probably popping veins by now... :-\

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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2007, 05:03:45 PM »
Ouch.  That definately's gonna hurt getting the nomination
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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2007, 06:29:31 PM »
Any mayor of NYC who favors the sort of gun-toting that is strutted about in Montana or Texas would clearly be an utter fool. The space per inhabitant, the social mix, the local customs are too great to apply the same policy to the entire country, urban and rural.

Texas has a higher percentage of its citizens locked up than the USSR in its worst days. They might even execute more as well.

Giulani has no chance of getting the nomination. The GOP demands that a candidate pay his dues, and he hasn't done so. He would need to pay a double share of them , being as he is divorced, Italian-American, a Noo Yawker, not any sort of evangelical, and his name ends in an i.

No chance. They will bring Jebbie forth long before they will nominate Rudy.
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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2007, 06:39:32 PM »
Any mayor of NYC who favors the sort of gun-toting that is strutted about in Montana or Texas would clearly be an utter fool....Giulani has no chance of getting the nomination. The GOP demands that a candidate pay his dues, and he hasn't done so. He would need to pay a double share of them , being as he is divorced, Italian-American, a Noo Yawker, not any sort of evangelical, and his name ends in an i.  No chance.

Good thing we have Xo here to tell us who and who won't be nominated by the GOP      ;)
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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2007, 06:43:25 PM »
Any mayor of NYC who favors the sort of gun-toting that is strutted about in Montana or Texas would clearly be an utter fool....Giulani has no chance of getting the nomination. The GOP demands that a candidate pay his dues, and he hasn't done so. He would need to pay a double share of them , being as he is divorced, Italian-American, a Noo Yawker, not any sort of evangelical, and his name ends in an i.  No chance.

Good thing we have Xo here to tell us who and who won't be nominated by the GOP      ;)


I think he is right ths time.
Rudy  might be a good president if more of us were New Yorkers.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2007, 06:46:02 PM »
Good thing we have Xo here to tell us who and who won't be nominated by the GOP     

I think he is right ths time.  Rudy  might be a good president if more of us were New Yorkers.

THIS time, he might actually be.  Even a broken clock is correct 2times a day     ;)
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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 07:00:31 PM »
The president has little to do with gun control, that is a legislative and judicial jurisdiction.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 07:17:13 PM »
The president has little to do with gun control, that is a legislative and judicial jurisdiction.



I don't agree , I think a President ought to be influential in legislation , and ought to veto exactly the sort of mesure that Guliani seems set to push .

A president ought be be enough astute in the principals of the bill of rights to be an an assistant in enforceing them.





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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2007, 10:31:03 PM »
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A president ought be be enough astute in the principals of the bill of rights to be an an assistant in enforceing them.

I think he threaded the needle well.

States and municipalities have far more leeway in regulating firearms than the feds, if i am not mistaken. And he did seem to qualify his position, using what was legal at the local level, but being cognizant of the 2nd amendment at the federal level.

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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2007, 10:35:25 PM »
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A president ought be be enough astute in the principals of the bill of rights to be an an assistant in enforcing them.

I think he threaded the needle well.

States and municipalities have far more leeway in regulating firearms than the feds, if i am not mistaken. And he did seem to qualify his position, using what was legal at the local level, but being cognizant of the 2nd amendment at the federal level.

Is the first or fourteenth amendment abridgeable on the city , county or state level?

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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 01:12:21 PM »
I think he is right ths time.
Rudy  might be a good president if more of us were New Yorkers.
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Giulani is clearly the best candidate that the GOP could run.

But the GOP is full of ratwing assholes and evangelical lameoids, and that is why he won't get the nomination.

You don't have to believe me... just watch it happen.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2007, 02:18:32 PM »
Speaking as one of these: "ratwing assholes and evangelical lameoids", I WOULDN"T vote for him. The litmus test is abortion; everything else is somewhat negotiable like gun control, immigration position, etc.

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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2007, 04:39:32 PM »
Has someone been trying to abort you again? :o

This country does not deserve the sort of clowns you would favor.
If you don't want an abortion, don't have one, Jeez.
Other people's reproductive systems are none of your goddamned beeswax.
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Re: Rudy Giuliani ends his canadacy for President
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2007, 04:50:13 PM »
Other people's reproductive systems are none of your goddamned beeswax.

And other people's vaccination choices are none of yours.
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