When there's no longer a Democrat President...

[sirs]

...and rest assured, they have no ownership of the post...the people get to decide...so when (not if) there's no longer a Democrat running the executive branch, there best not be 1 tear, 1 shriek, 1 ounce of criticism, if/when that newly elected President decides some pet issue he has declared "important", that the Congress won't go along with, that he then can simply decide to write the legislation himself, via executive order.

Is that really the road the left wants this country to go down??

[Plane]

  I think it depends.

   Think about the actions above and beyond the constitution that were done by Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln.

     Because the people in general agreed with the aims and methods , these guys got a lot of slack and forgiveness.

[sirs]

What's good for the goose........

[Plane]

  The public approval is a critical element, with a lot of charm a president can get forgiven some out of the lines coloring.

    But this public approval needs to be evident to all concerned doesn't it?

    President Obama started his term with strong approval ratings with a plurality.

    He has spent a lot of this "Political Capitol" so things will be a bit harder for him.

     If our next President is less charming and not trusted you can't say Sauce for goose and gander, it will be a different bird..

[sirs]

  The public approval is a critical element, with a lot of charm a president can get forgiven some out of the lines coloring.

Not under the current conditions.  Public approval is decidedly against the very actions being taken by Obama, but he's doing it anyways

I understand the point you're trying to make.  Perhaps you're missing mine.  You see, I wouldn't support this action from a Republican President...I wouldn't support this action from any President.  Even if it was a decision that would allow any and everyone to carry a firearm, via some executive order to simply no longer enforce certain firearm laws 

However, I lose all forms of patience with the rationalizations being used to excuse this President's actions, and worse, the near dead silence in reporting this by the media.  The mainstream media is supposed to report this stuff to the masses.  Not try to shape the perception of the masses.  That's what propaganda is all about, and why if this were happening under a GOP administration, there'd not only be 24/7 media outrage, but literal calls for impeachment

Which is why, with the precedent being by this President, there better not be any wailing, when a Republican or Libertarian is elected, and decides that he doesn't really need a Legislative branch either, to enact the laws he/she believes are important. 

   

[Plane]

   I can see your point .

   But the scales really are not balanced.

    It might be better to hold all presidents to a high standard and a short leash , but the public is human beings and will hold the charming to a low standard and give much latitude.

     If the next president is longer on competence than on charm , perhaps he won't need so much latitude or forgiveness to get the job done.
 

[Xavier_Onassis]

You will not be seeing a Republican't president for  long, long LONG time.

[Plane]

You will not be seeing a Republican't president for  long, long LONG time.

Why not?

Is there no disappointment in Democrats ?

Or is there no Republican stupid enough to submit himself to that ordeal?

[sirs]

You will not be seeing a Republican't president for  long, long LONG time.

Completely ignoring the point being made in the process.  Bravo.  But lets placate the fantasy....after this "long time" is over with, you apparently would have no problem with a Republican President doing whatever he feels in righting some wrong, with executive orders, because he deems that Congress isn't doing it for him.  Seriously?  RvW will be a state issue, as the Fed decides to no longer enforce that ruling??  That's what you long for??

[Xavier_Onassis]

You have no point, sirs. You never have any sort of point. The fact is that when we have a presidential election, huge numbers of minority people come out to vote for the Democratic candidate, and they stay home for midterm elections. The Republicans have nothing to offer the vast majority of people of this country. There were no serious issues debated in the 2014 elections. It was all a bunch of idiotic negative ads.

The ACA is quite popular in Kentucky, but the negative ads convinced a lot of voters that all the candidates were corrupt and they just stayed home, and that buffoon McConnell was reelected.

[sirs]

Of course I have a point.  Your koolaide is so thick however, you can't even begin to address it, because it would likely reinforce the point I'm making

Obamacare is UNPOPULAR everywhere.  Poll, after poll, after poll after poll.  It wasn't supported when it was ramrodded thru congress on a purely partisan vote, and it wasn't supported despite the lies Obamacare was built upon

The point remains, apparently you'd have no problem with a Republican President deciding that congress isn't acting "fast enough" for something he/she considers "urgently important", and decides to take executive action, to right some perceived wrong, instead of how the country was designed to function, when it comes to legislation

So, in other words, you have no leg to stand on, if a GOP President decides Roe v Wade need no longer be enforced at the Federal level.  Prosecutorial desecration, right?   

[Xavier_Onassis]

FLASH!

The rabid right's campaign to defame Obama has had great success among dunces.

But in 2016, President Obama will not be running,

In ten years, perhaps sooner, Obama will be resurrected as a hero for standing up to the Fascists and making health care for all American possible.

[sirs]

Professor Deflection strikes again.   News flash for the lunatic left... my point has nothing to do with Obama unconstitutionally trying to run a 3rd time, but about the precedent he's setting for all future Presidents,  including the next Republican.   Not to mention Obama's sycophants who are perfectly ok with the precedent.   

[Plane]

FLASH!

The rabid right's campaign to defame Obama has had great success among dunces.

But in 2016, President Obama will not be running,

In ten years, perhaps sooner, Obama will be resurrected as a hero for standing up to the Fascists and making health care for all American possible.

Or impossible.

You aren't aware that the unemployed are covered by Obamacare about as well as they ever were before?

That the middle class is being soaked for the cost of Obamacare , pretty heavy.

The sector that benefits best (so far) is the working poor, and this is the same sector that might be hurt most by the reduction of full employment that Obamacare might cause.

[Xavier_Onassis]

That is all nonsense.