Marriage is now allowed for gays in Florida.

[Xavier_Onassis]

In your mind, probably not.

[Plane]

  Is there an objective measure for lies told?

    What would a good metric be?

      Lets have Nixon as a baseline .

        Has Hillary told fewer? More?

          Could she be some multiple ?

              Perhaps some particular multiple of lies could be named for Hillary.

                  Say an hundred Nixons to a Hillary?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I fail to see any point to this.

The most honest president in my lifetime, perhaps ever, was Jimmy Carter.  So is there is a standard for truthfulness, he would be the one.

Nixon was different that every other president we have ever had, because he hated, loathed, despised the American people. He hated most foreigners as well.

Only Dick Cheney was more reprehensible.

[Plane]

     Jimmy Carter ran against a progressive Democrat and an integrationist Republican and won the governorship of Georgia , by feigning racism and segregationism.

       The Republican was who my Father voted for he didn't really agree with segregation .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Callaway

[Xavier_Onassis]

I do not think that absolute honesty is possible or even desirable in politics. 
The American people hate any sort of complexity and do not like to think. They particularly hate it when someone makes them think.
They hate the IRS because they hate math, they hate foreigners because they talk funny and eat funny food.
Reality, however is mostly complex, and the world is 93% composed of foreigners.

[sirs]

Who the hell is "they"?     

[Plane]

  There are better reasons to hate the IRS than math.

    1) they are empowered to take your money , or lock you up long term.
    2)they can declare you guilty of owing money, then it is your job to prove your innocence.
    3)they are wasteful, inaccurate, corrupt
    4)they have political involvement

     These four problems and many others would be solved by abolishing the IRS(one of the least likely things congress is ever to do, the IRS empowers congress a lot ).

[sirs]

And when used, directly or indirectly via party affiliation, to target opposing organizations, they cease being a federal agency, and simply an arm of an oppressive government body

[Xavier_Onassis]

And you want them to tell people when that must reproduce.

[sirs]

You're going to have to provide a quote, in context, since I've never claimed the IRS, or any arm of the Government should tell anyone they must reproduce.  Man or woman.  Good luck finding that

[Xavier_Onassis]

If a woman is pregnant and you seek to deny her the choice to have an abortion, you are forcing her to reproduce.
You are denying her the right to choose to not reproduce.

[sirs]

If a woman is pregnant and.....

...and stop.  That's where your rationalizations start down the irrational path.  If a woman is pregnant, its NO LONGER ABOUT THE WOMAN...ITS NOW ABOUT THE UNBORN CHILD.  If a woman is so irresponsible, to bring a life into the world, when she didn't want to, you don't punish the innocent unborn child who has no say in the matter. 

So, no, this is not about sirs, or anyone else for that matter, proclaiming women must reproduce.  Good gravy, what a pathetic irrational leap of illogic.  What "I seek" has nothing to do with her, but the life she now carries.  And neither is this about "choice" since she can choose any damn thing she wants......EXCEPT to kill the child.  That includes the choice not to become pregnant in the 1st place