More savagery from the IslamoNazis that Obama wont call what they are!

[Christians4LessGvt]

Islamic State claims to have executed
Jordanian pilot Moaz al-Kasasbeh by burning him in a cage

Horrifying images claim to show Islamic State setting captive Jordanian pilot on fire as he is held in metallic cage,
surrounded by fighters, Jordan says pilot was killed on January 3.

Supporters of the Islamic State group circulated photos on social media on
Tuesday purporting to show captive Jordanian pilot Muath al-Kasaesbeh being burnt alive.

[Christians4LessGvt]

ISIS THROWS ACCUSED GAY MAN FROM ROOF
BUT WHEN HE SURVIVES, TOWN STONES HIM TO DEATH

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/02/isis-throws-accused-gay-man-from-roof-but-when-he-survives-town-stones-him-to-death/

[Xavier_Onassis]

Of course, if the President would call them whatever you want him to, they would cease and desist immediately.

You still do not understand what I carefully explained to you about the fact that most Muslims do not speak English, and what you want him to say would sound like the US was declaring war on a billion or so Muslims. The words "IslamoNazis" cannot be translated meaningfully into Arabic, Pashto, Dari, Urdu, Bahasa or even Srinang Tongo.

ISL, known as Dash, has pretty much demonstrated that they are a bloodthirsty bunch of sadistic extortionists. What our President calls them is not significant.

[Plane]

  It seems to be important , that they excuse themselves as excellent examples of Islam .

   But important also that their critics call them an embarrassment to Islam.

     It would be better for us if we did not need to fight all of Islam, so what they get called is important to them and to us.

    And I think the President is not really wrong in choosing his description of them carefully.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Words and language are greatly influenced by the culture in which they exist.

North Vietnam, determined to increase rice production, gave awards to the farmers who were most efficient at collecting and distributing what is called "night soil" as fertilizer. Night soil, is of course, human poop.  The awards were presented with great pomp in a ceremony after the year's harvest.

Translating the words on the award that went to the most dedicated farmer into English defies any serious translation.

The Muslims were largely unaffected and perhaps mostly unaware of the Nazis and their deeds. The Germans, of course, were enemies of the most recent colonial powers that dominated the area: the French and the British, and not seen in the same way as those who just seen "Schindler's List".
"IslamoFascist" is not anything that is likely to mean much to Muslims in the Middle East.

[sirs]

"IslamoFascist" is not anything that is likely to mean much to Muslims in the Middle East.

Hmmmm, since that's largely what these radicals are, and since, as you say, its not likely to "mean much", thus not really offend anyone outside of perhaps the radicals themselves......what's the problem in calling this a war against radical Islam??

[Xavier_Onassis]

Tell me, genius: what are the Arabic, Pasto, Urdu words for "radical"?   What are the alternate meanings of these words?

I bet you think Jesus spoke English

[Christians4LessGvt]

Good for Jordan! I hope they carry through with this immediately.
Obama instead of releasing Gitmo terrorists, should follow suit and start executing
Gitmo detainees every time a US interest is attacked.

Jordan announces execution of six ISIS prisoners "within hours"
in retaliation after terrorists release lavish video of Jordanian pilot being TORCHED
to death in a cage in yet another new low for humanity

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2938199/Burned-alive-cage-ISIS-release-video-claiming-horrifying-murder-captured-Jordanian-pilot.html

[Christians4LessGvt]

Of course, if the President would call them whatever you want him to, they would cease and desist immediately.

Of course if we jail murderers, murder will cease and desist immediately. 
Of course when we killed the first German Nazi, Germany would have halted their savagery.   
Of course if we punish evil-doers, evil will cease immediately. 

[sirs]

Tell me, genius: what are the Arabic, Pasto, Urdu words for "radical"?   What are the alternate meanings of these words?

You just said that Muslims wouldn't think much about it.  Why can't WE call it as it is?? 

So Genius, are you on record claiming that Muslims, if not the rest of the Arab world, can't differentiate between a nown and an adjective??

[Plane]

Words and language are greatly influenced by the culture in which they exist.

North Vietnam, determined to increase rice production, gave awards to the farmers who were most efficient at collecting and distributing what is called "night soil" as fertilizer. Night soil, is of course, human poop.  The awards were presented with great pomp in a ceremony after the year's harvest.

Translating the words on the award that went to the most dedicated farmer into English defies any serious translation.

The Muslims were largely unaffected and perhaps mostly unaware of the Nazis and their deeds.

This is a little error,Germans and Italians fought the Allies all over North Africa including some very important battles in Egypt. Control of oil reserves and the Suez were big prizes and Anwar Sadat was getting ideas.

The Germans, of course, were enemies of the most recent colonial powers that dominated the area: the French and the British,

Italians?

and not seen in the same way as those who just seen "Schindler's List".
"IslamoFascist" is not anything that is likely to mean much to Muslims in the Middle East.

semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat

Does a conscientious translator minimize the potential harm of what he is translating or translate as accurately as possible making the nuance match as nearly as possible?

If the translator is not conscientious , he might be translating with a bit of his favorite slant on things no matter what is said.

Believe it or not , lots of them do speak English, including those who can't understand us .


I notice that there seem to be plenty of signs in English at protests , perhaps more for us to read on TV than for anyone near the protest.

[Christians4LessGvt]

At the bottom of the page of this link is the awful savagery of these Islamic Nazis

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=439954092820090

[Xavier_Onassis]

The Egyptians  and other Maghrebi countries did not participate much in the battles in North Africa. The term "Islamo Nazi" makes far less sense as a nasty thing to call anyone in the Muslim world, in any case. Most of the people that Dash (ISL) is trying to recruit are not fluent enough in English for these silly Foxnews epithets to mean anything.

How about these words in Spanish; mocho, pocho, gabacho , gringolandia, yanqui, vendepatrias, malinchista? Doe any them provoke you to anger or outrage?  If you were Mexican they might.

[sirs]

We're not talking about Mexico, we're talking about something supposedly few muslims are going to bother with, according to you.  So which brings us back full circle, if its not a bit deal to most of the Muslim world, what's the problem calling this war on radical Islam, a war on radical Islam??  You're making no sense.

[Christians4LessGvt]