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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2015, 09:38:55 AM »
They are obviously prisoners of war, despite not wearing uniforms when captured.
They should be tried and sentenced or released.
Even if this does not happen, we are paying way too much to keep using Gitmo as a prison just to satisfy the revenge instincts of fools like Sen. Cotton.
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2015, 06:37:57 PM »
They are obviously prisoners of war, despite not wearing uniforms when captured.
They should be tried and sentenced or released.
Even if this does not happen, we are paying way too much to keep using Gitmo as a prison just to satisfy the revenge instincts of fools like Sen. Cotton.

  No.

  Prisoners of war are not tried for the normal conduct of warfare.

   Prisoners of war are held for the duration , unless they can be accused of war crimes.

    If they are ordinary criminals , in whose jurisdiction was their crime committed?

     Neither President Bush nor President Obama nor the Congress have done the right thing.

       Keeping the status of these guys ambiguous keeps them from availing themselves of their rights as accused under our constitution, or as prisoners of war as combatants under the Geneva Convention.

     Of course this works out well for them also, some of them are caught red handed in murder if they are criminals ,or would be held for the duration of a war that they intend to continue forever.

     Ambiguous prisoners can be traded like playing cards, a lot of them have been released without a trial or a resolution of the conflict.

        The placement and the expense are not as important as the precedent,  kind of a bad precedent whether you look at Bush , Obama or the Congresses that have all dropped this ball.

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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2015, 07:06:50 PM »
They are obviously prisoners of war, despite not wearing uniforms when captured.
They should be tried and sentenced or released.


  No.

  Prisoners of war are not tried for the normal conduct of warfare.

   Prisoners of war are held for the duration , unless they can be accused of war crimes.

The placement and the expense are not as important as the precedent,  kind of a bad precedent whether you look at Bush , Obama or the Congresses that have all dropped this ball.


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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2015, 12:07:22 AM »
No,there is no Bingo here, sirs: go forth and bingo yourself.

Guantanamo is a huge waste of money and bad propaganda.
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2015, 12:45:38 AM »
Again, missing the mark, as it was Plane's point being made, not mine
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2015, 09:56:26 AM »
I am dead on accurate., Gitmo is far too expensive. Criminal behavior should result in a trail and a conviction.

You are not qualified to select my targets, punk. 

Everyone agrees Khalid Sheik Mohammad is guilty. He is proud of what he did. So execute him already.

Gitmo should not be used for housing anyone. It is a naval base that we probably do not need as a naval base. It is not a place where the government should be able to do unconstitutional acts that violate the UN agreements that this country has signed.
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2015, 10:15:03 AM »
Again, missing the mark...this isn't about "criminal" behavior.  This is about taking enemy combatants off the battlefield, while we're at war with them & Radical Islam.  Gitmo is the perfect location to house them, not to mention has squat to do with the Constitution, since they are not American citizens, covered by it

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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2015, 06:36:45 PM »
Gitmo should only be closed after the terrorists are executed.
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2015, 08:27:09 PM »
They have had a decade to try them and execute them.  Keeping them in Guantanamo costs $1.2 million per prisoner. I think that the GOP should have a bake sale to pay this, since I don't think it is worth my money to waste it on a useless base.

They could easily clear out one of many Federal prisons and hold them in this country.
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2015, 08:59:28 PM »
They have had a decade to try them and execute them.  Keeping them in Guantanamo costs $1.2 million per prisoner.

Exactly....we should execute them all now.
Screw bringing these type bastards to the mainland!
Execute them!

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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2015, 10:51:02 PM »
This being a country of laws and not of men is something we hear all the time.

I don't see how they can execute anyone without even charging them with a crime and putting them on trial.

Summary executions are something that Nazis were famous for. Even Stalin had trials.

The ones that confessed to being masterminds, perhaps they could execute,  but I do not see this happening. If it were easy to do, it would have been done already.
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Re: US Senator Tom Cotton on Gitmo
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2015, 12:19:58 AM »
I don't see how they can execute anyone without even charging them with a crime and putting them on trial.

Perhaps you fail to grasp how Obama is using our drones

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