Gates: U.S. has evidence of Iran helping insurgents

[Amianthus]

For a relatively small country, Canada has: 1. contributed one of the six invading armies that landed in Normandy on D-Day (the U.S. contributed three and the British 2;)

The units for Overlord were contributed on a divisional basis. In general, 4 divisions make up one army. Canada contributed 5 divisions to Overlord, the US contributed 21 divisions.

Also, the US had numerous divisions in other theaters of the war at the same time. Canada had few elsewhere.

[_JS]

That's right....let's keep that head buried.  Seriously, it's staggering for me to think that you believe that Iran has so little influence and disruptability inrying to bring stability to its next door neighbor, it's been warring with for decades.  Literally stunning

Sirs, where in the report by the Defence Secretary do you see evidence for the claims you are making?

Am I supposed to simply take your word for it? And with Syria I have yet to see any real evidence of involvement. With Iran what I've seen is a great deal of kind of/sort of language that concludes with "possibility." This is from the Secretary of Defence, Sirs, someone that even you must admit is privy to a great deal of information.

Do you just forget about evidence now? Is it just what we say, or else?

[Michael Tee]

<<The units for Overlord were contributed on a divisional basis. In general, 4 divisions make up one army. Canada contributed 5 divisions to Overlord, the US contributed 21 divisions.>>

From what I recall, there were six armies, six invasion beaches.  The U.S. had Omaha and two others, the Canadians had Juno Beach, the British had Sword and one other.  How many divisions went into an army on D-Day for the invasion, I have no idea, nor whether each division had roughly the same number of men, nor whether each army had the same number of divisions.  The fact is, without in any way attempting to minimize the American contribution, Canada was NOT a bystander as the Professor implied, they were the only Ally to send an army to Normandy and to take one of the invasion beaches.

<<Also, the US had numerous divisions in other theaters of the war at the same time. Canada had few elsewhere.>>

Canada was always about one-tenth the population of the U.S.A.   From what I can recall of the WWII casualty figures, Canada's casualties were much more than one-tenth of the U.S.A.'s.  We did our share and IMHO much more than our share.

[Plane]

  Long ago when I was a sailor I went to Canada and participated in exercises along with the Canadian Navy.

   It is a good bunch .

   On the same trip I learned not to ridicule funny looking money .


    Got my ears pinned back.


    Canada and the US help make each other possible , a destitute or an unfreindly northern neighbor would produce a very diffrent situation for us.

[Michael Tee]

<< Long ago when I was a sailor I went to Canada and participated in exercises along with the Canadian Navy.

  << It is a good bunch .>>

Thank you.  We have a very good friend who is a veteran of the Battle of the Atlantic and whose brother is one of the few survivors of the sinking of HMCS Athabaska.  It was also my privilege, while still a teenager, to work in an organization which employed quite a few RCN vets.  They are all a great bunch of guys.  Some would have called them a great bunch of sex-obsessed perverts, but not me.  I wish I could remember all the verses of "The North Atlantic Squadron" that they liked to sing, though.  They were hilarious.

[Amianthus]

From what I recall, there were six armies, six invasion beaches.

The Canadians were part of the British Second Army. The order of battle was approximately as follows, east to west:

British sector (Second Army)

• 6th Airborne Division was delivered by parachute and glider to the east of the River Orne to protect the left flank.
• 1st Special Service Brigade comprising No.3, No.4, No.6 and No.45(RM) Commandos landed at Ouistreham in Queen Red sector (leftmost). No.4 Commando were augmented by 1 and 8 Troop (both French) of No.10 (Inter Allied) Commando.
• I Corps, 3rd Infantry Division and the 27th Armoured Brigade on Sword Beach, from Ouistreham to Lion-sur-Mer.
• No.41(RM) Commando (part of 4th Special Service Brigade) landed on the far right of Sword Beach.
• Canadian 3rd Infantry Division, Canadian 2nd Armoured Brigade and No.48 (RM) Commando on Juno Beach, from Saint-Aubin-sur-Mer to La Rivière-Saint-Sauveur.
• No.46(RM) Commando (part of 4th Special Service Brigade) at Juno to scale the cliffs on the left side of the Orne River estuary and destroy a battery. (Battery fire proved negligible so No.46 were kept off-shore as a floating reserve and landed on D+1).
• XXX Corps, 50th (Northumbrian) Infantry Division and 8th Armoured Brigade on Gold Beach, from La Rivière to Arromanches.
• No.47(RM) Commando (part of 4th Special Service Brigade) on the West flank of Gold beach.
• 79th Armoured Division operated specialist armour ("Hobart's Funnies") for mine-clearing, recovery and assault tasks. These were distributed around the Anglo-Canadian beaches.

U.S. Sector (First Army)

• V Corps, 1st Infantry Division and 29th Infantry Division on Omaha Beach, from Sainte-Honorine-des-Pertes to Vierville-sur-Mer.
• 2nd and 5th Ranger Battalions at Pointe du Hoc (The 5th diverted to Omaha).
• VII Corps, 4th Infantry Division and the 359th RCT of the 90th Infantry Division on Utah Beach, around Pouppeville and La Madeleine.
• 101st Airborne Division by parachute around Vierville to support Utah Beach landings.
• 82nd Airborne Division by parachute around Sainte-Mère-Église, protecting the right flank. They had originally been tasked with dropping further west, in the middle part of the Cotentin, allowing the sea-landing forces to their east easier access across the peninsula, and preventing the Germans from reinforcing the north part of the peninsula. The plans were later changed to move them much closer to the beachhead, as at the last minute the 91st Air Landing Division was found to be in the area.

The fact is, without in any way attempting to minimize the American contribution, Canada was NOT a bystander as the Professor implied, they were the only Ally to send an army to Normandy and to take one of the invasion beaches.

Poland and Free France also sent divisions for the landing at Normandy.

[sirs]