The Radical Islamic Elephant in the room

[Xavier_Onassis]

They cannot swim the Mediterranean, let alone the Atlantic. Nor can they fly. And if they are recruiting from Europe, it is because they have beeb unsuccessful at recruiting from among their own people.

[sirs]

Swimming isn't required.  Hijacking when not simply infiltrating required transportion will suffice just fine.  And done under the umbrella of political correctness makes their efforts all the more easier

[Plane]

  How much time passed between Adolf Hitler having almost enough power to conquer a beer hall, till he reached the power required to subdue France entirely?

   The commonality is not the religious element, which the Nazis had a little of, nor the political element which IS has plenty of , the commonality is the people who feel put upon and are looking for a leader to ride the white horse.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Arabs and not Germans. Germany had industry, expertise and education. The Arabs of Iraq and Syria in Isis have very little of any of these. They do not have a really charismatic leader, and beheading innocent reporters for not getting ransom is not really the sort of action most people see as positive. Perhaps uneducated young unemployed men, but hardly anyone else.

There are no Arab Hitlers possible.

[Plane]

There are no Arab Hitlers possible.

If we quit shooting them as fast as they emerge, an Islamic Hitler will be possible.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Get fucking serious. It would be a miracle if even a Muslim Ataturk would arise.

Hitler was  not the threat, the German people and German industry were the threat.

The Muslims that follow these  fanatics have no industry and no means for creating one.

The highest Muslim technology I have seen are cheap pocketknives and socks.  The knives are not worth a damn, but they do make good, comfy socks.

[Plane]

The Muslims that follow these  fanatics have no industry and no means for creating one.

   You are highly wrong on this particular point.

    There was never a strong majority of Germans or Italians joining the Fascists , but there was a strong minority that was willing to cow the majority.

     The Islamic world includes a lot of industry and equipment to make more, plenty of it in Iraq and Syria.

   And of course what ever they do not have already, they hope to capture.

[sirs]

Precisely

[Xavier_Onassis]

Perhaps they will capture a Carnival Cruise liner, load on several tanks and sail to Manhattan, or stage a craft sneak attack on Malibu. This country is so weak that a thousand or so fanatics screaming Allahu Akbar! could easily land in Malibu and take Washington in a week after a militarized road trip.

These and other fantasies are easy if you just try.

[sirs]

Professor Hyperbole, strikes again

[Plane]

Perhaps they will capture a Carnival Cruise liner, load on several tanks and sail to Manhattan, or stage a craft sneak attack on Malibu. This country is so weak that a thousand or so fanatics screaming Allahu Akbar! could easily land in Malibu and take Washington in a week after a militarized road trip.

These and other fantasies are easy if you just try.

  Unfortunately, much more plausible attack plans are being imagined.
   Al Queda attempted lots of unsuccessful strikes and a few successful ones before they managed to burn down seven buildings in downtown New York and cause a stock price crash.

     You should not take our military strength so for granted , nor rely on it as the answer to all.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The  idea  that the US could be conquered by ¨Islamofascists´is hyperbole. These fanatics do not have the resources, and no way to get them. They can be very annoying  at most

[sirs]

The  idea  that the US could be conquered by ¨Islamofascists´is hyperbole.

And who specifically is making the claim that we're going to be "conquered" if we don't deal with them??  Without a name, that'd once again be an example of arguing a point, no one is making.  Hyperbole?, yes.  A claim someone is making?, no.

These fanatics do not have the resources, and no way to get them. They can be very annoying  at most

No, they can kill thousands, at most, which they have done.  And they have multiple ways to acquire resources, via stealing, purchasing over the black market, ransom, or just simply taking over city after city's resources, thru invasion & expansion.  And the more recruits, across the globe, provides more opportunity to gather more resources

[Plane]

   Even if the fanatical Islamists never amount to more than a large organized crime ring, isn't their danger and irritation worthy of action to reduce their strength?