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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2015, 04:37:08 PM »
Again with the error - riddled responses.   This isn't the old west, so we can simply ignore that irrational injection,  and it has nothing to do with "need".  It has to do with the right own/carry  a firearm.   My 1st amendment right doesn't trump yours.  And your 1st amendment right doesn't trump my 2nd
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2015, 04:43:46 PM »
Good for you! You are obviously a genius.
I am glad people cannot wear guns in Florida.
Too bad Texas is so dangerous these dorks need to packing heat.

Texas is no more dangerous than most places...
And please don't put words in my mouth.
I do not support people wearing guns openly.
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2015, 06:57:30 PM »
Dashcam of dude bolting from his car as police officer was running his DL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7In0VlT6XI
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2015, 10:09:56 PM »
Dashcam of dude bolting from his car as police officer was running his DL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7In0VlT6XI
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-video-shows-south-carolina-man-fleeing-traffic-stop-before-shooting/ar-AAaFk8J

This explains a lot.

But this is probably not enough ,the policeman might build a defense if this was enough to give him reasonable expectation that this was a dangerous character.

Just not enough there, not to make it seem reasonable to shoot.

Then to falsify the evidence and lie in the incident report.

There would need to be a lot more and a lot worse.

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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2015, 10:12:24 PM »
Dashcam of dude bolting from his car as police officer was running his DL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7In0VlT6XI
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-video-shows-south-carolina-man-fleeing-traffic-stop-before-shooting/ar-AAaFk8J

This explains a lot.
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Then to falsify the evidence and lie in the incident report.


THAT's the kicker......it demonstrates he knew what he did was wrong.  Wrong, on so many levels
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2015, 10:18:15 PM »
If he was not under arrest ( and it seems that he was not) he had every right to get out of his car and run away.
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2015, 10:51:49 PM »
No, he doesn't.  He's being lawfully detained.  He has zero right to run
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2015, 11:30:08 PM »
If he was not under arrest ( and it seems that he was not) he had every right to get out of his car and run away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_stop
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2015, 02:42:36 PM »
Professor Wrong, strikes again     8)
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2015, 08:26:59 PM »
Running away would have been better than letting this murderous cop shoot him in the back.
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2015, 10:02:31 PM »
Just saw Geraldo Rivera discussing this, his opinion is that the most successful prosecution would be on charges of manslaughter, also perhaps obstruction of justice.

   I don't know if South Carolina is the same , but in Georgia someone like this might be accused of a range of offenses and the Jury allowed to pick one.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/geraldo-dashcam-video-gets-officer-slager-off-his-murder-charge/

Geraldo makes a good case for this , but there seems to be a strong public desire for strong measures, less than the maximum might not be satisfying.

Perhaps this should not influence a jury or a prosecutor, but I expect it will.

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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2015, 10:39:45 PM »
I do not see how this is not an unprovoked attack.

Is a person suppose to just stand there and allow himself to be tasered?

Still this being South Carolina, I will be surprised if the cop even gets any jail time.
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2015, 02:43:48 AM »
Running away would have been better than letting this murderous cop shoot him in the back.

You have that bassackwards......had he not run, the "murderous cop" wouldn't have shot him now, would he have
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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2015, 05:00:15 AM »
I do not see how this is not an unprovoked attack.

Is a person suppose to just stand there and allow himself to be tasered?

Still this being South Carolina, I will be surprised if the cop even gets any jail time.
  You really don't know North Charleston S.C.

I lived there a few years , if I were the defense in this case I would try to get a change of venue.

Of course now an uncontaminated jury would not be found this side of the Amazon.

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Re: Scofflaw with a broken tail light is taught a lesson
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2015, 08:22:46 AM »
He should have run away FASTER.
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