Hillary & $$$

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no reason to comment on this, because there is no legal case, the details are unclear, ever since about 1979, the right wing assholes like Limbaugh have been on the Clintons' case. No one has sold any uranium to anyone, or even planned to.

It is of no real concern to be at this point, as there is no one to vote for nor against.

[sirs]

No one has said this is a legal case, Dr Deflection.   And here you are again referencing a point no one has made......outside of course  the Tax laws and the clear request by the Obama administration, of all folks, to make clear who and where the donations to their Foundation came from, that Billary apparently ignored as they raked in those tens of millions.   No one is claiming they broke the law.  No one is claiming that Billary should be charged with any crime.  No one said this was a legal case, although it could be one.  No, those are still more deflection efforts you're trying to use in order to. .....*drum roll*.....avoid the point actually being made.  What a shocker. .....not

[Xavier_Onassis]

If it is not illegal, then you should shut the fuck up and stop bitching. You are powerless to change anything, including my mind. You are just wasting your time. Do you enjoy annoying people? Is that your thing, sirs?

[sirs]

If it is not illegal, then you should shut the fuck up and stop bitching.

See, yet another example between conservatives and liberals.  You never hear a conservative tell someone they need to shut up, or that no one should listen to them.  Quite the contrary, the more a liberal/socialist/Marxist spills the truth as to their intentions, vs cloaking in phrases such as "its for the children", or "if it saves just one life", or "you can keep your doctor/insurance, if you like it", the more educated the electorate becomes.  But with the left, its always how conservatives should be made to shut up.  If everything we discussed HAD to be limited to actual legal cases, what the hell are we here for?  THIS IS A DEBATE FORUM.  IF YOU CAN'T DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE, OR JUST TIRED OF TRYING, THEN MOVE ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC, AND LET THE ADULTS CONTINUE TO DEBATE THIS ISSUE.  As you referenced before, I'm under no obligation to adhere to your mandate of shutting up

You are powerless to change anything, including my mind.

I have no intention of changing your mind.  I have every intention however, of highlighting every fricken one of your hypocritical tirades/rants, demonstrating just how merit-less your accusations are, and demonstrating each and every time you try to change the topic to something else that no one else is making, in some transparent attempt to avoid the point being made.  Current post being a perfect example.  I also have the power of free speech and to vote.  Both of which can change many a mind and educate those who don't chose to be so willingly ignorant, and subsequently vote for some serious change in our political structure. 

This topic isn't about what legal trouble Hillary is in.  Nor is it about trying to change xo's mind.  It's always been about the power of money, & the buying of a politician, in this case Hillary's political peddling.  There doesn't need to be some napkin that has her writing I'll sign off on the Uranium deal for some major $$$'s for our Foundation.  The mere appearance of impropriety is quite enough.  Even then Senator Lugar, in Hillary's confirmation hearing for SoS, expressed that very concern.  And now its come to fruition

See, that's debating/discussing an issue/topic, that has nothing to do with it being a "legal case"

You are just wasting your time.

Your opinion is duly noted.....and rejected

Do you enjoy annoying people? Is that your thing, sirs?

Only toe tag liberals

[sirs]

It's all just a coincidence, dammit.  Moving along, nothing to see here. 

Apparently instead of Bill renting out the Lincoln bedroom, Hillary was renting out American Foreign Policy.  And this is just the DICLOSED donors.  Who knows how many undisclosed donors were amongst those 30,000 "personal" e-mails, that were deleted, that we simply have to take her word on

[Xavier_Onassis]

How is it that she does not have a right to her own e mails?

No one subpoenaed them.

[sirs]

How is it that she does not have a right to her own e mails?

When she combined them with her official government e-mails

No one subpoenaed them.

The were subpoenaed, at which time it was then disclosed that they were all deleted....and her server wiped.  We just have to take the Clinton's word on that none of the 30+K emails deleted had anything to do with shady, undisclosed donors.  Because they're so "credible"   

[sirs]

It just gets sleazier and sleazier.  It would appear that the Clinton Foundation has basically branched into a foreign money-laundering operation.

[sirs]

So much for the effort at trying to claim that donors couldn't be divulged because Canadian law supposedly says they couldn't be.  3 Pinocchios from the Washington Post, with that attempt

[sirs]

Shameless:  While Democrats attempted to foist upon voters in the days leading up to their 2010 electoral drubbing that Secret foreign cash was buying the election for Republicans!  It was, in fact, utter and complete nonsense, not to mention Democrats outspent Republicans that year anyway, but Democrats were dutifully "scandalized" and very angry about it all. 

Here we have actual secret foreign money pouring into Chez Clinton, and Democrats will merrily nominate Hillary for president. 

[sirs]

The Clinton Sleaze boondoggle just gets wider and wider

......The Clinton Health Access Initiative never submitted information on any foreign donations to State Department lawyers for review during Clinton’s tenure from 2009 to 2013, Maura Daley, the organization’s spokeswoman, acknowledged to the Globe this week. She said the charity deemed it unnecessary, except in one case that she described as an “oversight.”

During that time, grants from foreign governments increased by tens of millions of dollars to the Boston-based organization.....

Then Senator Kerry made clear, during Clinton's confirmation hearing for SoS that ..... “All contributions by foreign governments will be subject to a review process by the State Department’s officials,’’ Kerry said on the Senate floor. “This review will occur prior to the receipt of any such contribution, and Senator Clinton has made clear that the process has been designed to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.’’

[Plane]

  I recall Al Gore having to explain his receipt of Chinese cash.

  How much did this hurt his election?

    This did not cost him my vote, I already had found reason not to vote for him.
     It must not have cost him a lot of faithful Democrats either he got a lot of votes.

But the election was very close, the margin of victory was smaller than the margin of victory in several states.

       With enough other factors , perhaps something like this can be the final straw.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Gore actually got more votes.

By the way, one of the largest donors to Republicans is Sheldon Adelson, and pretty much his entire fortune comes from Macao, where he owns casinos, and his important goal is to keep our government sucking up to Netanyahu.

[Plane]

Gore actually got more votes.

By the way, one of the largest donors to Republicans is Sheldon Adelson, and pretty much his entire fortune comes from Macao, where he owns casinos, and his important goal is to keep our government sucking up to Netanyahu.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/opinion/thomas-l-friedman-is-it-sheldons-world.html?_r=0

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417627/how-jeb-bush-lost-sheldon-adelson-primary-eliana-johnson

So there is a counterpart to Soros?

This is important to know, but not just about one side.

[sirs]

By the way, one of the largest donors to Republicans is Sheldon Adelson, and pretty much his entire fortune comes from Macao, where he owns casinos, and his important goal is to keep our government sucking up to Netanyahu.

Completely missing the point on those tens of millions of dollars from undeclared/undisclosed foreign donors, including foreign governments.  An act that would have Democrats screaming for a rope and high tree limb, at the mere appearance that a Republican was being bought.

But no, she has the right letter after her name, so whatever wretched, sleazy, unethical, if not criminal acts she performs, can be ......tossed aside and ignored.  Rank hypocrisy apparently a mandatory requirement to be a toe tag liberal/socialist.  But cudos on the deflection effort.  Can always count on you to try that tactic

Gore actually got more votes.

Constitution 101, Bush got more electoral votes, which is what's required to be elected President, in this country.  Well designed by our founders, so that we couldn't be ruled by mob mentality