The "Religion of Peace" strikes it's own.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Afghanistan: Suicide bomber strikes in Jalalabad

 *GRAPHIC* 

Up to 33 people were killed and over 100 injured in multiple explosions in Jalalabad,
eastern Afghanistan on Saturday. The attacker reportedly rode a motorbike into a queue
of government workers who were waiting in line to receive their salaries from a local bank.
The attacker then self-detonated.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5f_1429347615

[Xavier_Onassis]

clearly, the only solution is to declatre war on Muslims and convert them all to Jeezus.

[sirs]

Clearly, someone has no fricken clue of the point Cu4 is making, so instead has to yet again argue a hyperbolic point, no one is making, or even implying.  xo sop

[Plane]

clearly, the only solution is to declatre war on Muslims and convert them all to Jeezus.

Works for me.

Might require a constitutional amendment tho.

[sirs]

lol....you're not helping by agreeing with his hyperbole, Plane     

[Xavier_Onassis]

CU4 seems to have the idea that any acts of terrorism perpetrated by a Muslim is the work of all Muslims, because somehow, they should have stopped it. I think CU4 is a Catholic of some sort, because he seems to think that there is a Muslim Pope or leader of some type ordering acts of terrorism.

I think everyone here
understands, or at least should understand, that the Muslim world is going through a crisis at the moment, first because its traditional male-dominated prudish culture is clearly threatened by Western culture, now unavoidable because of satellite TV, and second because there is a very high percentage of young men between 16 and 25 in the Muslim world, and that is the age at which unemployed young men tend to rebel in any culture.

This latest atrocity is no more the fault of every Muslim on the planet than Timothy McVeigh's bombing in OK City was the fault of Christendom. Perhaps some Muslims want to call their rather fundamentalist, primitive beliefs "the religion of peace", but I do not and will not. Catholicism does not bomb people or assassinate them any longer, but it has had its share of repression over the years, especially of women. The RC Church was in such a difficult state that for the first time in centuries Pope Benedict resigned rather than deal with the corruption, the scandals and the atrocities that the Church could no longer suppress.

No matter how many times CU4 and other critics of the Muslims rant and rave about how Islam is not the "religion of Peace", none of their rantings will change a thing.

Just as accusing every Christian for McVeigh's crimes will not change the minds of any Christians.


My point is that whether we like it or not, Islam is what it is, and will continue to be what it is. Outsiders will not change it by calling names. Obviously, the US cannot declare war on Islam.

[Plane]

.................. Obviously, the US cannot declare war on Islam.

That is true.

But if that is what declares war on us, does it matter that we cannot declare the war on them?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Islam will not declare war on the US. There is no leader that has ever declared war on anyone.  Perhaps some Ayatollah might issue a fatwa, but normally these are against specific individuals, not entire nations.

And of course, the US cannot declare war on Islam, since it is not a country.

Most of those killed by Islamic extremists are other Muslims.

Islam is a rather silly religion, but then again so is Christianity. I do not expect either will ever cease to be both popular and silly.

Muhammad got on his horse and flew to heaven and then to Jerusalem and back to Mecca in a single night.
God used an angel to impregnate Mary so he could be his own son or a third of himself.

Jesus said that he came to reimpose the Law. Then along comes Paul and says, forget all  that stuff, it is now obsolete. Why? because, see there was an earthquake and darkness in the daytime and a curtain in the temple was torn. Like, how can you not understand that?

Mohammad's five prayers a day are an excellent brainwashing technique. So are Catholic confessions. 

[Plane]

Jesus said that he came to reimpose the Law. .............

Oh?

[sirs]

CU4 seems to have the idea that any acts of terrorism perpetrated by a Muslim is the work of all Muslims, because somehow, they should have stopped it.

Or more likely, they were too afraid to stop it, for fear of retaliation to themselves and family.  Best ask him vs jumping to hyperbolic conclusions like he wants to kill all Muslims

[Xavier_Onassis]

Matthew 5:17


"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."

Now consider what Paul did: he said that circumcision, the dietary laws, the Kosher laws were no longer necessary.

Paul destroyed what Jesus said he came to fulfill.

Jesus said in one place not to judge others, but he did rather a lot of judging himself.  He seems top have judges the moneychangers in the Temple rather harshly, to give one example.

Of course Biblical "scholars" will naturally explain this all away with various types of illogic and mumbo-jumbo, but the truth is that Jesus came as  Jewish rabbi to minister to his fellow Jews and only upon occasion does he even acknowledge Gentiles as relevant.  Paul, on the other hand, wanted to found a world religion, but could not accomplish this if the many Jewish laws and commandments were obeyed. Once Jesus brother James was dead and gone, Paul took over.

[sirs]

the truth is that Jesus came as  Jewish rabbi to minister to his fellow Jews and only upon occasion does he even acknowledge Gentiles as relevant.  Paul, on the other hand, wanted to found a world religion, but could not accomplish this if the many Jewish laws and commandments were obeyed. Once Jesus brother James was dead and gone, Paul took over.

    Someone with an unfortunately serious level of ignorance as to what Jesus came as, and more importantly, what he came to do

[Xavier_Onassis]

Best ask him vs jumping to hyperbolic conclusions like he wants to kill all Muslims



Why is this "best"?  I have called him on his silly tirades repeatedly, and he can  explain all he wishes. I doubt that he needs your interpretive services.

What seems to happen is that some rightwing clown points out yet another outrageous act of Muslim terrorism and denounces it, along with the obligatory reference to the "religion of peace", and then CU4 parrots the article he heard or read. The fact is that some Muslims call it a religion of peace, and others call it a religion that must defend itself against heresy, obscenity, corruption and modernity.  Few scream about Religion of Peace prior to blowing up people, Muslims or otherwise.

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is not as though you are capable of actually debating the issue, is it, sirs?

Do you deny that Jesus preached to Jews almost exclusively?  Do you deny that Paul abolished the dietary and other ritualistic laws in order to convert pagans?

Because the Bible is pretty clear on both points.

[sirs]

Best ask him vs jumping to hyperbolic conclusions like he wants to kill all Muslims

Why is this "best"?

Because its far more logical than accusing Cu4 in wanting to exterminate all Muslims because they're supposedly "in on it".  THAT's a tactic of yours, arguing a point no one is making.  Instead, why not confirm the point, and argue that.  You'll come across far less desperate

What seems to happen is that some rightwing clown points out yet another outrageous act of Muslim terrorism and denounces it[/b].....

EXACTLY....the ACT OF MUSLIM TERRORISTS.....NOT THE ENTIRE MUSLIM POPULATION (as that's your go to deflection effort)