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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2015, 06:03:24 PM »
I was discussing the prosecution of the cops who were charged with delivering Freddy Grey to the station and instead seem to have killed him, over a knife that they thought was a switchblade and apparently wasn't.
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2015, 06:44:52 PM »
And I was referencing that anyone falsely arrested as a means of trying to inhibit thug facilitated riots is completely unacceptable. 
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2015, 08:48:23 PM »
seem to have killed him, over a knife that they thought was a switchblade and apparently wasn't.

XO.....I heard Freddie's knife may have violated local law,
of course that does not mean
it was ok for him to die over an illegal knife charge.
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2015, 11:48:01 PM »
Do you know what, if any, types of knife are illegal where YOU live?

I wonder if Crocodile Dundee's knife was legal in NYC. I imagine that anything that large would be illegal.

I have no idea what is legal or illegal here, and I have lived here since the seventies.

Jailing a person for an illegal knife seems a bit much to me. Simply taking away the knife would seem to be adequate.

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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2015, 01:04:34 AM »
   A short time before I was born , there were regular thuggish riots purposed on influencing prosecution.

     I am just old enough to remember the KKK being feared.

      The Scottsboro boys got prosecuted pretty badly, this sort of thing happened several times a year some where .

        The KKK used to be able to destroy the peace , if they didn't get pleasing justice.

      Now who takes this role?  The KKK is justly reduced , their strength is a joke in comparison to what it was.

        So who holds peace hostage to "justice" as the KKK once did? 

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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2015, 12:13:47 PM »
Why do you assume anyone does?

I do not see the point of this.

The Scottsboro Boys were tried by a kangaroo court and all but one sentenced to death. The verdict was appealed, and with the help of the Communist Party, four more were set free. One was sentenced to death, but the sentence was not carried out. One was killed by a prison guard.

Freddy Grey was arrested on a very minor charge, and never tried. Asa result of his arrest he is now dead.

He did not get any help from the Communist Party, though.
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2015, 06:11:53 PM »
Why do you assume anyone does?


You are ignoring the half of the Story that has most of the similarity.

Riots in the streets with demands for justice, and threats of worse riots if this "justice" didn't happen promptly.

No Justice ,no peace, and who has the mob right to determine what is just?

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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2015, 08:04:41 PM »
The courts will try the cops and they have the authority to determine this.
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2015, 09:27:03 PM »
Of course, there are going to be people that will say that the prosecutor should not have arrested these police.
Some would prefer to see half of Baltimore burned down. 

Then they could blame Al Sharpton.

If new evidence emerges that exonerates these police, or even just raises a reasonable doubt.

Must thugs burn Baltimore?

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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2015, 02:51:35 AM »
Bingo
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2015, 10:03:33 AM »
The time between the arrest of the cops and the verdict is a cooling off period.

The demonstrators are legal and have every right to demonstrate. The rioters are a much smaller group.

Letting all the cops off right away would have surely guaranteed a riot.
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2015, 10:09:57 AM »
And no one has said Demonstrators can't demonstrate.  The point Plane was making is that, regardless of their "size", if the cops are exonerated, does that not give license for the "protesters" to then resort to rioting again?
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2015, 09:26:24 AM »
The protesters and the rioters are different people.
Protesting is legal, looting is not.
Duh.

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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2015, 10:08:54 AM »
The protesters and the rioters are different people.

Not the ones that start "protesting", then transition right into rioting


Protesting is legal, looting is not.

D'uh.....who claimed otherwise??   ::)
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Re: Freddie Gray
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2015, 03:34:10 PM »
Apparently, you think I did.

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