Blame the Flag!

[Plane]

The North has managed to get along well without any symbol, after all.

Yes , weird that.

[Xavier_Onassis]

That is not the symbol of the North. It represents the entire country.

The poem on it does not reflect the current attitudes regarding immigration.

We are not accepting the "wretched refuse of your teeming shores" any longer. I think the evidence is pretty clear that we never did.

[Christians4LessGvt]

We are not accepting the "wretched refuse of your teeming shores" any longer.
I think the evidence is pretty clear that we never did.

Uh?
Doesn't the US have more people immigrating here than any other country in the world?
Who lets in more people than we do?

[Xavier_Onassis]

EWe do not admit "the wretched refuse" of anyone's teeming shores. We do not admit lepers, gypsies, people with AIDS and a whole lot more.

[Christians4LessGvt]

EWe do not admit "the wretched refuse" of anyone's teeming shores. We do not admit lepers, gypsies, people with AIDS and a whole lot more.

no we let in tons of lawbreakers....and that's not just people crossing illegal
we let in lots of uneducated poor people and lots of "wretched scum criminals"
lots of gang members as well as lots of  scum that kill, rob, murder, drive drunk and maim law abiding citizens
check out the US prison populations that houses tens of thousands of illegal immigrants

[Plane]

EWe do not admit "the wretched refuse" of anyone's teeming shores. We do not admit lepers, gypsies, people with AIDS and a whole lot more.

no we let in tons of lawbreakers....and that's not just people crossing illegal
we let in lots of uneducated poor people and lots of "wretched scum criminals"
lots of gang members as well as lots of  scum that kill, rob, murder, drive drunk and maim law abiding citizens
check out the US prison populations that houses tens of thousands of illegal immigrants

Watch yourself , Donald Trump just got FIRED for making similar observations.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The point I am making is that for whatever reason, the USA never admitted everyone that wanted to come, willy-nilly, at least after  the Civil War.
Perhaps Emma Lazarus thought of herself and her fellow Eastern European Jews as wretched refuse. I think there were many in Russia that saw them that way.

There are mistakes made in admitting certain people to this country, but it is more a matter of character than a matter of nationality.

Still, we are definitely better off without Yugoslavian Gypsies. In particular the tribes of pickpocket families.

[Christians4LessGvt]

[Xavier_Onassis]

What a really STOOPID comment. It is difficult to remember when anyone posted anything so utterly lame here.
The premise that all murders are caused by flags and somehow ONLY by flags is inane and ignorant. No one claims this.

Not only is this a totally lame and idiotic post, it is not even original. CU4 apparently felt that he was incapable of truly monumental stupidity and sought it out from the Stupidity Central that is racist ratbag right wing websites.

No one said that all murders are only the  result of flags.

And you do not give a shit about Chicago, anyway.


The Rebel flag is a symbol of racism. It did not cause Roof to murder those people, but the racist Confederate Cause that the flag represented was responsible for warping his mind to do what it did.

Seeing people with the Confederate flag sent a message to the twisted mind of Roof, it let him know that he was not alone in his hatred of Black people and his belief that they all were conspiring to rape "his" women and steal "his" country.



There is no reason for the State of South Carolina to support the presence of this symbol of racism on the capitol grounds of a state that should respect ALL its citizens.

People who worship this stupid flag can own all the goddamn racist flags they want: they can have it tattooed on their fucking foreheads.

[Plane]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/bubba-watson-announces-hell-paint-over-confederate-flag-on-general-lee/ar-AAcuM5h


That is it , it is over.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Why not rename the car as well?

The Dukes of Hazzard were not plantation owners, they were moonshiners.
The Civil War was NOT about the free distribution of moonshine.
Robert E Lee was not celebrated as a whisky drinker, Grant was the whisky aficionado.

A more appropriate name would be something like George Dickel, Jack Daniel, Jim Beam.

[Plane]

The Civil War was NOT about the free distribution of moonshine.

Yes.

That was the Whisky Rebellion vs George Washington.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

[Xavier_Onassis]

There were no fast cars involved.  And it took part in Pennsylvania. And the Rebels lost and peacefully gave up, not bothering the country with crap about states rights, holy flags and sanctified heroes.

[Plane]

There were no fast cars involved.  And it took part in Pennsylvania. And the Rebels lost and peacefully gave up, not bothering the country with crap about states rights, holy flags and sanctified heroes.

  But where did they go?

   And did they ever stop making whisky?

[Xavier_Onassis]

I think they paid taxes on the whiskey they made after the Rebellion. Congress also funded all weather wagon roads, mostly made of timber, that made it easier to transport farm products.
Pennsylvania and Massachusetts are not noted for whiskey today. This was before Bourbon was invented. It was mostly just rot gut corn whiskey, not even as smooth as moonshine today.