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Iran "Deal"
« on: July 14, 2015, 01:17:53 PM »
Brought to you, by the same shrewd negotiator...that traded an American traitor, for FIVE top Taliban commanders!

So....lets break this so called "deal" down.

Iran gets billions in cash from this deal.

China and Russia get billions from this deal in new weapons sales to Iran.

What does the US get?

A lick and promise that Iran will behave?

Ha Ha yeah like that will happen as they chant "DEATH TO AMERICA".

So once again Trump is correct...we make deals that enrich everyone involved except the United States.

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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 02:12:19 PM »
You are incapable of understanding sooooo many issues.
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 02:42:01 PM »
What's to understand?  This is so much like the effort for Israel to hand over more of its land for a "promise of peace"
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 03:06:05 PM »
yeah sure BOZO-Boehner!

BOEHNER: "WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO STOP "IRAN NUKE DEAL"

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/14/boehner-we-will-do-everything-we-can-to-stop-iran-nuke-deal/

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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2015, 03:54:22 PM »
These clowns have not even READ the thing and they are against it.

They are puppets of Netanyahu, not American leaders.
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2015, 04:37:12 PM »
Naaa...the puppets are the ones taking Obama at his word that this was a "good deal", especially given his track record of truth.  For who exactly??

You do realize that Obama, IN HIS OWN WORDS, made it clear that with any deal:
- Inspections were to be anywhere, anytime, unimpeded
- They were to come clean on all past nuclear activity
- Sanctions were to be GRADUALLY lifted based on compliance, NOT universally lifed with a promise of compliance
- Non-nuclear sanctions were to remain seperate from these sanctions


Not to mention that Iran IS STILL HOLDING SEVERAL AMERICANS, including a Washington Post reporter.  THAT should have been item #1, that any deal brokered demonstrate Iran's "good will" by releasing them

Folks like yourself seem to forget that IRAN IS THE BAD GUY HERE.  They were the ones that were being put under the screws to comply with the International Community.  And yet, this has been approached like some co-ed volleyball game, where the weak team was given all the strong players, and the strong team has to play with 1 hand tied behind its back...just to get the weak team to play ball

Obama's journey now appears complete.  He screwed the country with Obamination Care & his unconstitutional Immigration crap, and now the rest of the globe with this arguably worst "deal" since Neville Chamberlain's.  Yep, his "legacy" is pretty much set.  Bravo for the 1st Black President
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 05:19:57 PM »
The negotiations were never about Iranian-American citizens held by Iran or recognizing Israel.

If the other countries involved in sanctions decide to abandon sanctions, what choice is there?

War is not a real choice here. Iran has three times the population of Iraq.

No American should die because Netanyahu is upset. 

Before Iran was "The Bad Guy" the US and the UK deposed the elected leader of Iran, a secular man named Mossadeagh. Then they put that nasty little Shah on the throne and gave him advice on how to remain as a dictator for 25 years. It was the Shah who agreed not to have nukes, and no Iranian now alive agreed to this.

Iran and the US are BOTH bad guys.

Yeah, you have to mention that Obama is the first BA}LACK president. But no, you are not a racist.
What a bunch of clowns you guys are!
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 07:35:36 PM »
The negotiations were never about Iranian-American citizens held by Iran or recognizing Israel.

Never claimed they were, Dr Deflection.  I'm claiming that they SHOULD have been made as part of the deal to demonstrate some assemblence that Iran would comply with something, outside of just their say so


War is not a real choice here. Iran has three times the population of Iraq.

Why does the left keep thinking that without rolling over to any Iranian resistance, the ONLY other alternative would have been war??  Why's that?  Sanctions were working.  Heavier sanctions would have worked that much better.  It's what brought Iran to the table, to begin with.  Using the world's banking to literally freeze so much of Iran's assets & income streams would have been just as effective as some smart bombs over some strategic nuclear facility.


No American should die because Netanyahu is upset. 

And no American would


Iran and the US are BOTH bad guys.

And THAT my friends, is why this country is so screwed.  To actually believe we're right there with Iran, as it relates to how bad we are.  And to think there are those in political office that share that mindset, including our current appeaser-n-chief, who apparently can't wait to roll over for our enemies, while giving a middle finger to our allies


Yeah, you have to mention that Obama is the first BA}LACK president. But no, you are not a racist.
What a bunch of clowns you guys are!


Is the sun not yellow??  Is the sky not blue.  Is Obama not the 1st Black President??  How is making a statement of fact, "racist"?  Oh yea, I forget...it's the liberal playbook....ANY cricisim of Obama MUST be racist in origin.  Talk about clown think    :o

Now.....You do realize that Obama, IN HIS OWN WORDS, made it clear that with any deal:
- Inspections were to be anywhere, anytime, unimpeded
- They were to come clean on all past nuclear activity
- Sanctions were to be GRADUALLY lifted based on compliance, NOT universally lifed with a promise of compliance
- Non-nuclear sanctions were to remain seperate from these sanctions

LEADERSHIP STARTED THERE.  Anything less is demonstrating an overt lack of such
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 08:22:13 PM »
Speaking of Obama and being Black.
Yes Obama is half Black
But Obama does not share the identity or cultural experience of most American Blacks.
Obama's Mother was White.
Obama's Father was Kenyan.
Obama was raised primarily by well off White Grandparents.
So Obama has no real connection with African Americans that are descendants from slaves and that experience.
Obama wasn't raised in the hood....he never experienced poverty like so many American Blacks.
He is not really "one of them".

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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 08:33:08 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2015, 08:50:53 PM »
  The first problem is that Iran is on record as desiring our death.

   Who thinks they don't mean it?

    A related problem is that they consider us "Satan" and thus it is no sin to lie to us, hoodwink us, and /or cheat on any deals we might make.

     I hope that this 100 page agreement is written on really good paper , thus it will be worth something.

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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 09:12:35 PM »
Yeah, Obama is not a "real" Black. But he has been married to one for over 20 years. He has two daughters that are also Black.

Are you sure you are a "real" American, CU4?

Have you ever roped a cow?  Gone on a cattle drive?  Drilled a wildcat well?  Defended the Alamo?  I question that you are even a real Texan.

The money that Iran gets was money that belonged to them, in payment for oil they sold earlier, and seized as part of the embargo. It is not money they took out of CU4's pocket.
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 12:39:04 AM »
he has been married to one for over 20 years. He has two daughters that are also Black.

what does who one marries have to do with their racial status?
Obama is not from any American slave connection or descend-ency.
Obama had a white Mother, a Kenyan Father,  & was raised by well off white grandparents.

Are you sure you are a "real" American, CU4?

I think so....but I don't really care one way or the other.
I'd rather be a citizen of a seceded Texas nation.
America hardly exists anymore and won't for very much longer.
And anyway I don't use my American status to push a false political narrative.
Obama has no connection to inner-city Blacks.

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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2015, 12:41:30 AM »
It's what brought Iran to the table, to begin with.

SIRS....the international community is removing the sanctions & Iran is keeping its nuclear program!

Wow....what a big win for us!  ::)
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Re: Iran "Deal"
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2015, 02:02:23 AM »
Well Obama did say we could keep our insurance.......I mean, this was a good deal
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