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Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« on: August 04, 2015, 10:00:55 PM »
Video Shows the Beginning of Saudi-Led
Coalition's Ground War in Yemen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd5t28HkLqk

Debkafile

Saudi and UAE armored brigades and commando forces
land in Aden as Houthi insurgents fall back


DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

August 4, 2015

After clinching its conquest of the Yemeni port of Aden, contrary to all Western predictions - Saudi Arabia teamed up with the United Arab Republic and, together, on Tuesday, Aug. 4, landed by sea and air two armored brigades and several commando battalions. DEBKAfile's military sources report that this was the first time that any Gulf nation had shown itself capable of a sea landing on this scale.

Tuesday night, the roads heading north out of Aden resounded with the thunder of convoys of heavy Saudi Abraham M1 tanks and long lines of heavy French made Leclerc tanks contributed by the UAE army.

The landings from the Red Sea were covered by intense gun and missile fire from the multi-Arab fleet of Saudi, Egyptian and UAE missile vessels and warships offshore.

Among the heavy vehicles freighted in by air were hundreds of armored personnel carriers, some of them Russian-made BMD3s, others Humvees made in America -  and all fitted with short-range ground-to-ground missiles - as well dozens of US-made mine-resistant, ambush protected (MRAP) vehicles designed to withstand roadside bombs.

To speed the arrival in Yemen of mountains of armored military reinforcements, plus equipment, supplies, ordnance and medical evacuation services, the Saudis and UAE hired an Abu Dhabi firm specializing in airport construction, Within 48 hours, the Aden airport which had been badly damaged in the fighting was ready for large transport planes to come in to land.

Tuesday night, the workmen were busy on a second project, preparing Al-Anad, Yemen's biggest airport 48 km north of Aden, for Saudi and UAE fighter-bombers to take off for air strikes.

The newly-arrived tanks, APCs and commando fighters were meanwhile advancing rapidly toward Yemen's next largest town, Taiz.

Our military sources report that the Houthi insurgents have nowhere near the quantity or quality of equipment and weaponry to withstand the assault coming their way from a combination of armored, naval, air and commando firepower, and so they began falling back.Their patron, Iran, was caught unawares by the massive onslaught and is in no shape to render immediate assistance for redressing the huge imbalance which now characterizes the state of the Yemen war.

http://www.debka.com/article/24784/Saudi-and-UAE-armored-brigades-and-commando-forces-land-in-Aden-as-Houthi-insurgents-fall-back


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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2015, 10:04:33 PM »
The Saudis are not experts at this. Their success ir problematical.
But better than than us. At least they are Muslims and speak Arabic.
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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2015, 10:07:06 PM »
The Saudis are not experts at this. Their success ir problematical.But better than than us. At least they are Muslims and speak Arabic.

Yes...it will be interesting to watch how Shia Iran who is
bogged down on other war fronts reacts to this Sunni chess move.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2015, 10:16:34 PM »
Iran has a few Sunnis, Saudi Arabia has a few Shiites.  Yemen is clearly in the Saudi zone of influence. Look at a map.

Both the Saudis and the Iranians are rather fanatical Muslims. Of the two, Iranians are the more modern. They do not behead people for witchcraft, at least.

The Saudis were to blame for the Taliban taking over Afghanistan. They financed the Mujaheddin, they provided the money and a lot of the missionaries. They also are largely to blame for fundamentalism in Pakistan.
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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 11:26:35 PM »
They also are largely to blame for fundamentalism in Pakistan.

i was not aware of that....so the Saudis are probably anti-Indian?
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2015, 09:46:20 AM »
The Saudis probably side with Muslims against Hindus, because to them Hindus are idolaters and Muhammad says that idolators are an abomination, not just misguided monotheists.

The Saudis gave positions in the religious police to those who did not have the ability to become engineers or office workers. Soon, they had too many, and they sent them off as missionaries to Africa, the Maghreb, Afghanistan and Pakistan, among other places. Boko Harem and the Taliban are the result of this. These groups were formed by the followers of the Saudi missionaries. There was a divergence of opinion about the intensity of the enforcement against Saudis in the Kingdom. The King advised removing the most fanatical of the religious police from the country by sending them off as missionaries.

Remember that Saudi Arabia considers itself the guardian of Islam. Saudis believe in Saudi exceptionalism: when it comes to Islam, they are Number One. Number One!
Just like American right wingers see themselves as the rootin tootin defenders of Democracy. When it comes to Capitalism THEY think THEY and Number One.
 

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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2015, 10:20:41 AM »
Just like American right wingers see themselves as the rootin tootin defenders of Democracy.
When it comes to Capitalism THEY think THEY and Number One.

Let me know when the Saudis (or anybody else for that matter) lands on the moon and returns home!  (like we did almost 50 years ago)

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 11:53:39 AM »
What on Earth does landing on the Moon have to do with Democracy?

You will find precious few right wingers among astronauts and NASA scientists.

I am talking about ATTITUDES, not accomplishments. 
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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2015, 12:20:15 PM »
What on Earth does landing on the Moon have to do with Democracy?

it has to do with american exceptional-ism...
which you often prefer to ignore and concentrate on pointing out any negatives
how come nobody else has done it?
why is it odd to cheer and be proud of the "home team"?
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2015, 12:37:14 PM »
I don't like sports. I don't cheer for ANY team.

You can cheer all you want. You were not working for NASA, no matter how proud you are. Maybe your taxes paid for $76.93 of the cost of NASA.

You can feel smug about some American you have never met landing on the Moon. I don't because I did not put anyone on the Moon. My relationship is that I heard Kennedy say that we were going to do it "because it was hard".

A Saudi can feel smug because Allah chose an Arab as the last and best prophet. I don't actually believe in prophets or prophesy, and anyone who claims they influenced Mohammad in any way is deceiving himself.

Belgians can feel good about their beer, chocolates and Brussels Sprouts. This is really only valid if they are brewers, chocolatiers or farmers.

If I were a member of the NASA team that actually put men on the Moon, then that would be something I could legitimately be proud of.

Some Americans are exceptional, as are some Arabs and Belgians. But claiming that the entire society gets to take credit for their accomplishments seems lame.

So what's wrong with it, is that is is dumb and a type of self-deception.


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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2015, 03:39:01 PM »
I don't like sports. I don't cheer for ANY team

You're weird.
Americans have given their life for the freedoms of this country.
Most Americans are proud of their country....obviously you are not.
But no surprise there...we've read your pathetic "blame America first" crap for years.
It's funny though...what speaks louder than words are your feet!
If it was soooooo great in all the places you extol you'd be there.
But we see where your fat ass sits!
Unlike most Americans...you are a "defense attorney" for shit-holes like Cuba, and a prosecutor for the US.
You highlight the minimal achievements of places like Cuba, and dismiss the great achievements of your own country.
If that's not weird I don't know what is!

JFK said "we" will go to the moon....meaning "we" as a nation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFvJog2dMw


Some Americans are exceptional, as are some Arabs and Belgians.

More leftist "relativism"....no one excels any more than another.
America as a nation has excelled to the moon and world changing innovation and Belgian makes good beer?
Ha Ha.....do realize the meaning of what you type?


But claiming that the entire society gets to take credit for their accomplishments seems lame.

We as a society are Americans.....we are a nation made up from individuals.
As a country we send more foreign aid than any other country on the planet.
We as a country benefit from our exceptional-ism.
That's why more people immigrate here than any other place in the world.
They want to be a part of this nation.
I wish we could ship you off to one of the poverty ridden hell-holes you pretend is so wonderful.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 04:22:15 PM »
I am a fourteenth generation American. This is my country. It is special to me, but no more special to me that I imagine Saudi Arabia is to many Saudis, or Canada is to many Canadians.

I do not believe in the worship of countries. I am an American because I was born here.

Other countries are clearly better at some things than we are, We should adapt what they have learned, just as they adapt what we have learned.
We can made the first limited access highway with the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and the Germans adapted the idea and improved upon it and built their Autobahns, then we imitated them and improved upon what they did and built the Interstate Highway System.

The Germans clearly learned a lesson that we taught them, which was that invading other countries and setting up puppet regimes was counter productive. We should have learned this as well, but we didn't and made fools of ourselves in Vietnam, Iran and Iraq.

No country is perfect. Every country is perfectible. It takes intelligence to learn, adapt, modify and implement what we can learn from others, just as they have learned from us. This country is perfectible as are all countries. I believe in "the greatest good for the greatest number" as a proper ideal. This was the idea of Jeremy Bentham, the same British philosopher that first spoke of "The pursuit of happiness".

I don't think Cuba is a shit-hole, but I would not want to live there. My Cuban girlfriend did prefer living in Havana than living in Miami, though. I don't plan to visit Cuba until the transportation system is better and there are regular, reasonably priced flights. But the Cubans are definitely NOT starving and have society that has no race riots or mass shootings by lunatic gun nuts.  Cuba is a more comfortable place for the Cubans than the US would be, just as the US is a more comfortable place for Americans to live in. You think that everyone wants to come here, but that is very far from the truth. People come here for the money. Some stick around and others return. 

Patriotism often blinds people to their faults.

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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 07:03:10 PM »
I am a fourteenth generation American. This is my country. It is special to me, but no more special to me that I imagine Saudi Arabia is to many Saudis, or Canada is to many Canadians.

The United States is more special to more people than any place in the world because more people immigrate to the United States than any place in the world.

I await your response of excuses as to why this reality exists....and why we are not special....and it's just an "accident" or circumstance as to why more want to come here than any other place on the planet.


I do not believe in the worship of countries. I am an American because I was born here.

Worship? That is reserved for God.
But Presidents throughout history speak about American exceptional-ism and it is backed up with facts.

Other countries are clearly better at some things than we are

Jimmy Page is clearly a better guitar player than Bill Gates....so what?
A janitor may be a better taxi driver than Einstein...so what?
Obama's butler may be a better cook than Obama is....so what?
Does that in any way mean they have the same "impact" in the world?
Some people's...some country's....exceptional-ism has a much larger impact on mankind.

We should have learned this as well, but we didn't and made fools of ourselves in Vietnam, Iran and Iraq.

Did we learn that lesson in Japan, South Korea, and Germany?
See again.. there you go..you only list the negative and fail to mention success.
You first gut reaction is to lessen America, highlight the negative....

Name another example where a conquered country or postwar situation that has prospered
to the level of Japan, South Korea, and Japan after the United States took the driver's seat?
Where are the examples that have produced those kinds of economic powerhouses?
But XO only mentions Vietnam and Iraq....what a skewed warped sense of guilt driven bullshit.

Cuba is a more comfortable place for the Cubans than the US would be, just as the US is a more comfortable place for Americans to live in.

But reality is not as you state....there are not tons of Americans that have tried to flee to Cuba.
There are tons of Cubans that have fled Cuba risking their lives!
This is a big time ONE WAY STREET situation.
The US does not need barriers to keep people from fleeing,
Just the opposite we need barriers to keep people out.
So you implying one is about the same satisfaction level as the other is total fantasy.

Patriotism often blinds people to their faults.

Leftism often blinds people to reality.



 
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Re: Huge Saudi Invasion of Yemen (American media mostly silent)
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2015, 07:08:58 PM »
Patriotism often blinds people to their faults.

Leftism often blinds people to reality.

BINGO!!
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2015, 09:14:01 PM »
  Teams are how big projects get done.

    There is a unifying principal in the USA, a brotherhood.

      Not just useful for spaceflight , the general welfare and improvement in standard of living is another big project that American brotherhood is useful to accomplish.

          We have a lot of irons in the fire , and doing things the American Way is the most effective way we can .

   I think XO has a point that there are other ways and other national prides, but this being so should not cause us to do any less than be the best example we can.

   The American way is forged from the adsorption of influences of all our immigrants and native populations , shouldn't the melding of all the world produce an exceptional nation? 

     I think we are hardly aware of the real origin of many of our habits.

       In the future I hope the habit we keep the best is that ability to assimilate the best without feeling obliged to assimilate the worst with it.