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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2015, 02:46:55 PM »
That rationalizion, while you've used it multiple times, continues to ignore we've had more guns being sold to law abiding folk, while violent crime has been going down....which completely debunks the asanine notion that simply more guns = more crime.  And mass murders aren't going up either, merely the media coverage, with murderers fuled by the ongoing devaluing of life
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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2015, 08:21:14 PM »
You make up your own "statistics" don't you?
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2015, 08:30:51 PM »
Nope. But its funny that you opine some misguided explanation for the proliferation of firearm ownership, while its a moot point.  In other words, even if we accepted your (ir)rationalization of the why, the FACT remains that you yourself have conceded, that violent crime has been going down, despite the proliferation      8)

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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2015, 08:57:29 PM »
SIRS.....I know you like facts....
watch this guy slowly and methodically destroy all the Left and XO'x arguments about guns with facts!

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2015, 10:48:25 PM »


The proliferation of guns is related to right wing paranoia.

Justified Right wing Paranoia.

When the Clintons were co-President, their anti-gun demagoguery was driving gun prices up as sales outran manufacture.

President Obama was not reassuringly respectful of the constitution either, he should remember that the Constitution is the source spring of his power  and the main limiter to his resistors.  If he makes another speech like the one he made a few days ago, there won't be a bullet left for sale anywhere , panicked buying will empty the shelves and drive prices skyward.

The high demand and prices have the salutary effect of encouraging the firearms industry to ramp up production, but it is irritating to an ordinary hunter in the meantime.

About thirty million more guns would make the ratio of persons to guns one for one here, if we elect Hillary we could very well surpass this and start working on paving our streets with pistols.

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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2015, 11:05:40 PM »
SIRS.....I know you like facts....
watch this guy slowly and methodically destroy all the Left and XO'x arguments about guns with facts!

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

That is pretty cute.

I would hazard a guess that the violence in Democratic voting America is a lot higher than the violence in Republican voting America.

I can get indication of this by looking at the crime rates in Dem voting areas vs crime rate in Republican voting areas, but this is not real proof.

What one would have to do would be to study the violent criminals closely and scientifically
which I am ill equipped to do.

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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2015, 03:18:57 AM »
SIRS.....I know you like facts....
watch this guy slowly and methodically destroy all the Left and XO'x arguments about guns with facts!

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

Wow!   
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2015, 10:04:49 AM »
Rural violence is less common that city violence. Not many gangs in Wyoming or central Nevada. They have crime, but it is a thief like Clive Bundy overgrazing land and refusing to pay rent, not drive by shooting in Compton.
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2015, 10:39:36 AM »
Which changes nothing that the video made painfully clear about guns & gun violence, related to the rest of the world
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2015, 12:15:28 PM »
I will not waste my time on your stupid youtube crap.
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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2015, 12:28:38 PM »
Liberal tactic 1a....when unrefutable facts are placed in front of you, bury head in sand & ignore

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xo tactic 2a....when unable to refute facts presented, deflect using sirs as source of deflection

Check  (newflash....its not my "youtube crap"
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2015, 02:42:24 PM »
It is "youtube crap" no matter who posted it.
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2015, 02:56:11 PM »
Your opinion on it being crap is duly noted....as is the knee jerk requirement to stick your head in the sand and pretend those facts don't exist
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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2015, 04:59:55 PM »
SIRS YOU ARE RIGHT!

SHOCK: AS AMERICANS BOUGHT 170 MILLION GUNS, VIOLENT CRIME FELL 51%

by AWR HAWKINS

On August 28, the NRA presented ATF and FBI data showing Americans have purchased "170 million new guns" since 1991, and violent crime has fallen "51 percent."

The NRA tweeted, "Since '91, Americans have acquired over 170 million new firearms and violent crimes have declined by 51%."

This information squares with the findings of a Congressional Research Service (CRS) study covering the slightly shorter period of time from 1994 to 2009. For those years, CRS found that Americans purchased approximately 118 million firearms, and the 1993 "firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide" rate of 6.6 per 100,000 fell to 3.6 per 100,000 by the year 2000. It eventually fell all the way to 3.2 per 100,000 in 2011.

That is more than a 50 percent reduction in "firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide."

Then, in 2009, the year the CRS study ended, Obama took office and gun sales began their climb to record levels, which made covering the gap between the 118 million guns that had been purchased by 2009 and the "170 million new guns" that Americans would own by 2015 an easy gap to bridge.

Breitbart News previously reported that there were 21,093,273 background checks for firearms in 2013 alone. And each of those checks were on buyers who could have legally purchased multiple firearms.

The overarching message is simple, more guns, less crime. Americans have purchased "170 million new guns" since 1991, and violent crime has decreased as gun ownership has increased.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/31/shock-as-americans-bought-170-million-guns-violent-crime-fell-51/

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