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Yes we do live in crazy times
« on: October 18, 2015, 09:33:14 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2015, 11:20:22 PM »
Basketball players are celebrities, people pay to see them. (not me)
Soldiers are not celebrities, no one pays to see them.
If you want to complain, complain to the media.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2015, 11:42:18 PM »
What do you think we've been doing??
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2015, 09:52:52 AM »
By all means, complain to your heart's content.

Still, professional entertainers will always get more publicity.

More people remember Jack Nicholson saying ''You can't HANDLE the truth'' than any words ever spoken by any real Marine.
Many of the bravest heroes are simply inarticulate.

Show business is reality the way we like to remember it.
That is why Reagan is so adored: he was an excellent ACTOR. Not much of  a president, though.
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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2015, 10:39:25 AM »
Helping to reinforce the point C was making, is fine with me
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2015, 04:10:14 PM »
SIRS.....XO is probably right.....
life is not fair or logical sometimes
halfwits get more attention than real heroes
it is what it is
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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2015, 04:16:42 PM »
I think you're both making the same point....as in you're pointing it out, and xo is attempting to rationalize the why
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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2015, 11:18:54 PM »
The reason celebrities get more publicity is.... are you ready for this... BECAUSE THEY ARE CELEBRITIES!

In the old USSR, the brave soldier would have gotten all the attention. An athlete whoremonger would not have been mentioned at all. He probably would have been removed from the team and sent to Irkutsk to plant radishes.

In the USSR the heroes were common people: farmers that doubled their annual yield, workers that saved the factory from disaster when some accident occurred. They gave out medals for this Hero of the Soviet Union.  Americans, as I recall, made fun of the Soviets. Imagine giving an award to a guy who drives a bulldozer. We thought Joe DiMaggio or Rocky Marciano were far more heroic.

I certainly pay no attention to whom the Kardassians are screwing.

Every once in awhile, have a real hero, like the Captain Sullivan that landed that plane in the river.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2015, 11:44:41 PM »
Did I claim something otherwise??      ::)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2015, 07:31:17 AM »
its easier to admire a celebrity than hero. Heroes has a much higher bar. Take drugs in a whore house and still get millions or take a grenade to save lives but not live rich.

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2015, 12:53:06 PM »
Celebrity is its own reward.

The first seems to have been the Gabor Sisters.They were not particularly talented, but they could talk up a storm and pEople liked their Hungarian accents.

They were the first celebrities who were famous for being famous.

The Kardassians are also famous for being famous. One has her buns surgically altered, marries Kanye West (whose celebrity seems similar to me) and they name their kid ''North West''. This sort of seems to limit them to one more kid (South), unless they want to get into Northbynorth and Southbysouth.

It is sort of like the real estate developer who buys an ancient Mount Trashmore and builds ''Deauville  Heights'' upon it. and peddle it to those the nouveau riches, who have lots of deau.

 Except  that  even when the truth is revealed, it become an archaeological site.This basketball player had a drug addict father and a sad, sad childhood, and somehow he made the NBA! One can only wonder if someone will write his life story and then make a semi factual biopic about it.

The hero mentioned did not make the pros, because the real pros (in the military) are not there to be pros. He will simply live out his life in government disability. His fifteen minutes of fame are sadly over. Well, probably.

Which biopic would you rather see?

Life is not a movie or a best selling novel. It is not fair.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2015, 01:04:27 PM »
Reminds me of the music industry. It changed because people like to only see pretty things and now all they all have to look pretty. Heroics is not always pretty.

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2015, 01:55:35 PM »
When heroes get blown up, it is rarely pretty.

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Re: Yes we do live in crazy times
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2015, 11:07:59 PM »
http://www.audiemurphy.com/

http://www.sgtyork.org/

http://www.modernamericanheroes.com/2010/07/13/the-story-of-legendary-sniper-carlos-hathcock/


It can be both ways.

What sort of hero do we really want?

Are we being presented some that we don't want?