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Plane

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Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« on: January 13, 2016, 07:53:20 PM »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hillary-clinton-tries-to-outflank-bernie-sanders-with-gun-control-strategy/ar-CCv222?li=BBnb7Kz


Today on NPR I heard a discussion of how Hillary might show weak in Ohio primaries with Bernie Sanders capturing a convincing large minority or even winning.

But Hillary knows she is loved in the south and can depend on southern Democrats to make up the difference because Bernie Sanders has little name recognition in the south. When she campaigns in the south her strategy will be to move right a bit and so suit the southern taste, Bernie Sanders will look like a loonie leftist while she will pose as moderate long enough to lock up the Democratic nomination.

But then I read this article about her plan   to capture the left by being left of Bernie Sanders on gun control .

So is she depending on southern Democrats to forget her stance on gun control in primary season?

Is she depending on southerners in general to forget her stance on gun control in the main election?

One of the topics of discussion was how well the black and Hispanic vote was going to serve Hillary Clinton as the "heir" of both Bill Clinton and BHO. I don't think this "heir" business will produce a lot of enthusiasm. Especially since Bernie Sanders can produce a long history of siding with the good side of civil rights since way back.

I really think that "skillful triangulation " will become poisonous words for the Hillary Clinton campaign because early supporters will see her drop early promises and later supporters will have to wade through new positions demonstrably opposite the opinions of weeks ago.

I do not want a Hillary Presidency and I am sanguine. The truth about her is that the truth is not in her and "triangulation " to her is finding what we want to hear  and saying it. Respecting our collective or individual intelligence totally notwithstanding.

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm

   
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Gun rights groups have long considered Mrs. Clinton their foe. Her 2000 Senate campaign centered on a push to keep guns off the streets, and she was a forceful advocate of creating a national gun registry. But eight years later, as she faced off against then-Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic primary, she positioned herself as more conservative than him on gun control. She backed off the proposal for a national registry and publicly recounted how her father had taught her how to shoot as a little girl- a story that prompted Obama to ask if she was seeking Annie Oakley comparisons. Gun control groups criticized her change in tune [back to strongly supporting gun control] as hypocritical and politically motivated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UbEalLMQvOw

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/12/hillary-clinton-releases-ad-supporting-obamas-gun-control-efforts/


http://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/that-time-hillary-clintons-campaign-attacked-obama-in-2008-f#.ea44GoQm5
Hillary cannot unpublish this , so I am quite sanguine.

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Re: Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 12:29:42 AM »
She's the epitome of saying, doing, acting, selling, and buying whatever she needs to do, at any given time, based on the circumstances of that moment and her immediate audience.

In other words, all the politics that so much of the country has come to loathe
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Re: Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 12:55:50 AM »
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Re: Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 01:21:21 PM »
NOthing Bernie has ever done in office as mayor, Rep, or Sen has been looney. Compared to Trump, he is far the better candidate. And so is Hillary.

If having money is a crime, Trump has 5 billion, 10 if he cashes in his famous name. And much of it wa tax holidays for his prjects, few if any were in he real public interest.
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Re: Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2016, 02:09:42 PM »
Funny, how no one claimed simply "having money" was at issue.  It's whos getting the money from whom.  Trump earned it.  Romney earned it.  Clinton is being bought

But to the point of the thread, its not the amount of money she has (a convenient albeit transparent deflection attempt), its her hard core traditional liberal politics as usual.  Completely disconnected from real Americans, who blanket the country.  Which is why she's so pathetically transparent trying to talk like a southerner in the south, lile a black person in a black church, like a northerner when in the north, like a west coast liberal, when on the west.

And that doesn't even start to address her 3 biggest campaign bombs that would sink any other candidate
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Re: Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2016, 07:38:56 PM »
Funny, how no one claimed simply "having money" was at issue.  It's whos getting the money from whom.  Trump earned it.  Romney earned it.  Clinton is being bought


Well said.

Frankly I am mystified, the Clinton fortune is very young money , they have amassed this cash at a fantastic rate.

How are hard questions avoided ?

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Re: Hillary triangulates herself into corner.
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 10:43:41 PM »
She has a "D" after her name.  That's how
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