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Hillary's E-mail-Gate gets worse!
« on: February 01, 2016, 01:38:56 PM »
New State Department Emails Reveal Plan to Set Up Separate PC,
Computer Network at State so Clinton Could Skirt Government Network System to Access Emails


FEBRUARY 01, 2016

"We should set up a stand-alone PC in the Secretary's office, connected to the internet (but not through our system) to enable her to check her emails from her desk"

(Washington, DC) New released records from the Department of State disclosing plans by senior State Department officials to set up a
"stand-alone PC? so that Clinton could  check her emails in an office "across the hall" through a separate, non-State Department computer network system. Referencing the special Clinton computer system, Under Secretary for Management Patrick F. Kennedy, writes Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, "The stand-alone separate network PC is a great idea."  The emails are from January 23-24, 2009, a few days after Clinton was sworn in as Secretary of State.

The new emails were obtained in response a court order in a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit for State Department records about Hillary Clinton's separate email system.

In the email chain, Lewis Lukens, former deputy assistant secretary of state and executive director of the secretariat, responds to a request from Mills by informing her, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, and Kennedy that the new personal computer "in the secretary's office" would be "connected to the internet (but not through our system)." Abedin responds,"We are hoping for that if possible."

The email exchange discussing plans to provide Clinton a separate computer to skirt the internal State Department computer network begins with a message from Mills to Lukens in which she requests Clinton being able to access her emails through "a non-DOS computer." The email discusses how the stand-alone computer can be set up and why it is "a great idea' and "the best solution:"

From: Cheryl Mills
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:45 AM
To: Lukens, Lewis A
Subject: Re: Series of questions


Lew who can I talk to about:

Can our email be accessed remotely through the web using a non-DOS computer like my laptop?
I am traveling to the M-E will my DOS bb work there and is there a cell phone attached?
Spoke to Dan [Daniel B. Smith, former DOS executive secretary] re: bb for HRC (and reports that POTUS is able to use a super encrypted one which)

Spoke to Dan re: setting up Counselor office for HRC so she can go across hall regularly to check her email
***

From: Lukens, Lewis A
To: cmills [REDACTED]
Cc: Habedin [REDACTED]; Kennedy, Patrick F; Smith, Daniel B
Sent: Saturday, Jan. 24, 19:10:33 2009
Subject: Re: series of questions


We have already started checking into the NSA bb. Will set up the office across the hall as requested. Also, I think we should go ahead (but will await your green light) and set up a stand-alone PC in the Secretary?s office, connect to the internet (but not through our system) to enable her to check her emails from her desk. Lew.

From: Kennedy, Patrick F KennedyPF@state.gov
To: Lukens, Lewis A <LukensLA@state.gov>; Cheryl Mills
Cc: Huma Abedin; Smith, Daniel B <SmithD2@state.gov>
Sent: Sat, Jan 24 19:48:25 2009
Subject: Re: Series of questions


Cheryl

The stand-alone separate network PC is [a] great idea

Regards

Pat

From: Huma Abedin
To: Kennedy, Patrick F; Lukens, Lewis A; Cheryl Mills
Cc: Huma Abedin; Smith, Daniel B
Sent: Sat Jan 24 19:48:27 2009
Subject: Re: Series of questions


Yes we were hoping for that if possible so she can check her email in her office.

***

From: Lukens, Lewis A
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:26 PM
To: Kennedy
,

I talked to Cheryl about this. She says a problem is hrc does not know how to use a computer to do emai only bb [Blackberry]. But, I said would not take much training to get her up to speed.

In separate litigation, the State Department states that Hillary Clinton was never issued secure State Department computing devices.

"These emails are shocking.  They show the Obama State Department's plan to set up non-government computers and a computer network for Hillary Clinton to bypass the State Department network,". "That these records were withheld from the American people until now is scandalous and shows the criminal probe of Hillary Clinton's email system should include current and former officials of the Obama administration."

U.S. District Court Judge Emmett Sullivan, is now considering whether to grant discovery in a lawsuit seeking information on the "special government employee" status of Abedin.

Additional evidence that demonstrates that senior management at the State Department was well aware that Mrs. Clinton was using a "non-state.gov" system to conduct official government business. This evidence also shows that the senior management at the State Department knowingly aided Mrs. Clinton in establishing and using a "non-state.gov system".

This newly discovered email demonstrates that there is at least a "reasonable suspicion" that the State Department and Mrs. Clinton deliberately thwarted FOIA by creating, using, and concealing the "clintonemail.com" record system for six years.

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Re: Hillary's E-mail-Gate gets worse!
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2016, 02:19:48 PM »
Imagine that!

Trying to access her own e mails!

Shame!
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2016, 02:22:42 PM »
Wow.

Remember the cries that Cheney should be indicted and Bush impeached when Valerie Plame's name was "leaked".  That was just ONE event, of intel being let loose, and the calls for impeachment were deafening.  Here we have hundreds, if not thousands of highly classified materials and names of those who are actually functioning as covert CIA agents, as opposed to Plame's desk job at the CIA, who the Chinese & Russians have already likely hacked from her unsecured private server, and yet she still wants to pretend to be Presidential?

And the level of organization to try and allow Clinton to circumvent standard protocol, to try and shield her actions from oversight and investigatory eyes, is also quite staggering

And news flash for the professor.....she could have accessed her own e-mails quite niceley with the system that was set up for all other Government employees.   She chose, however, to try and avoid the built in oversight attached to that system......at criminal risk to her and actual risk to lives to those who were classified
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Re: Hillary's E-mail-Gate gets worse!
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2016, 02:31:38 PM »
Imagine that! Trying to access her own e mails! Shame!

Imagine that...trying to access United States Top Secret documents on a private home computer.

Can you imagine such a complete reckless dumbass?
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Re: Hillary's E-mail-Gate gets worse!
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2016, 07:13:09 PM »


BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Put Spies' Lives at Risk

Lives are literally at stake

By John R. Schindler - 02/01/16

For months you've read about EmailGate in this column. I've elaborated how Hillary Clinton, the apparent Democratic frontrunner for President this year, put large amounts of classified information at grave risk through slipshod security practices by herself and her staff. Now that scandal has taken a significant turn for the more ominous.

Last Friday afternoon the State Department's latest court-mandated release of Hillary Clinton's emails from when she was Secretary of State caused a new political firestorm. While many more emails were released by Foggy Bottom, some with redactions due to classified materials they contained, twenty-two emails totaling thirty-seven pages of text were withheld entirely at the request of the Intelligence Community. Those twenty-two emails, deemed "unclassified" by Ms. Clinton and her staff, were judged to be Top Secret in reality.

Since Top Secret is the U.S. Government's highest official classification level, this revelation exploded months of denials from the Clinton presidential campaign that Hillary had done no wrong. The Federal government defines Top Secret materials as "information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security."  The disclosure of Top Secret information is a serious criminal matter that normal Americans face prosecution and substantial jail time for perpetrating.

Discussions with Intelligence Community officials have revealed that Ms. Clinton's "unclassified" emails included Holy Grail items of American espionage.

Nevertheless, Hillary Clinton over the weekend continued to deny any wrongdoing in EmailGate, painting the scandal as just more political theater by her enemies. Echoes of the "vast right-wing conspiracy," the Clintonian 1990s bogeyman, are now distinctly audible. Moreover, she compared the story to the attack on our Benghazi consulate in 2012, which may not help her politically, given the lingering problems that tragedy still causes Ms. Clinton in certain quarters.

Most controversially, Hillary and her mouthpieces have kept pushing the line that none of this information was "marked" classified when it appeared in her personal emails, despite the fact that this claim, even if true, does not mitigate any disclosure of classified information. Her defense seems to be that neither she nor anybody on her staff were able to recognize that Top Secret information was actually Top Secret, which is hardly a ringing endorsement of Hillary's qualifications to be our next commander-in-chief.

Mysteries abound in this latest trove of emails. One of the big ones is that four emails from Sidney Blumenthal, Hillary's close friend and factotum, were withheld by the Intelligence Community because they were judged to be entirely classified. How Mr. Blumenthal, who held no U.S. Government position after January 2001, when Bill Clinton left the White House, had access to classified information a decade after that is not explained.

This column has previously detailed how Mr. Blumenthal was running an impressive private intelligence agency for the Secretary of State, and that his emails to Ms. Clinton inexplicably included highly sensitive Top Secret Codeword intelligence from the National Security Agency. Since Mr. Blumenthal's emails were illegally accessed by a private hacker, they can be safely assumed in to be in the hands of numerous foreign intelligence services. There's a lot here that the FBI needs to unravel to understand EmailGate's full complexity and illegality.

Nevertheless, Hillary has upped the ante by demanding that the twenty-two Top Secret emails that have been withheld by the State Department be released to the public so Americans can see that they are in fact innocuous, as Ms. Clinton and her defenders maintain. Yet this is pure political theater: she surely knows that the emails are not going to be released on security grounds anytime soon, probably not for several decades, at least.

What, then, is in those twenty-two emails? Contrary to the assertions of Team Clinton that the information was benign, a "nothing-burger" to cite her allies, implying that the overzealous Intelligence Community has classified information that doesn't need protection, their contents are Top Secret with good reason. Hillary has opted for cries of "overclassification" as her last line of defense in EmailGate, notwithstanding that's the choice of any officials in Washington, DC, who have broken secrecy laws and have no leg left to stand on.

Today FoxNews has reported that those twenty-two Top Secret emails included "operational intelligence" that involves espionage sources and methods, adding that lives have been put at risk by Hillary's mishandling of this information.

At a minimum, valuable covers have been blown, careers have been ruined, and lives have been put at serious risk.

I can confirm that the FoxNews report, which lacks any specifics about exactly what was compromised, is accurate. And what was actually in those Top Secret emails found on Hillary's "unclassified" personal bathroom server was colossally damaging to our national security and has put lives at risk.

Discussions with Intelligence Community officials have revealed that Ms. Clinton's "unclassified" emails included Holy Grail items of American espionage such as the true names of Central Intelligence Agency intelligence officers serving overseas under cover. Worse, some of those exposed are serving under non-official cover. NOCs (see this for an explanation of their important role in espionage) are the pointy end of the CIA spear and they are always at risk of exposure, which is what Ms. Clinton's emails have done.

Not only have these spies had their lives put in serious risk by this, it's a clear violation of Federal law. The Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982, enacted due to the murder of the CIA's station chief in Athens after his cover was blown by the left-wing media, makes it a Federal crime to divulge the true identity of any covert operative serving U.S. intelligence if that person has not previous been publicly acknowledged to be working for our spy agencies.

People really go to jail for breaking this law. John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer, recently emerged from two years in prison for unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including exposing the identity of an Agency colleague who was serving under cover.

Anyone possessing political memory will recall that this law was also the centerpiece of the 2003 scandal surrounding Valerie Plame, a CIA NOC officer whose identity appeared in the media after it was exposed by the George W. Bush White House. Ms. Plame became a liberal icon of sorts, complete with high glamour, while the affair became an obsession for much of the mainstream media, despite the fact that the spy was physically unharmed by the leak.

Indeed, Valerie Plame parleyed the ruckus into a successful post-CIA career and she remains in the limelight. In a perverse irony, last weekend she was in New Hampshire campaigning for Hillary Clinton. Neither Ms. Plame nor much of the media seem interested in their candidate's far greater compromise of classified information, including the identities of NOCs like Valerie Plame once was.

Hillary's emails also include the names of foreigners who are on the CIA payroll, according to Intelligence Community officials. Since it can be safely assumed that several foreign intelligence agencies intercepted Ms. Clinton's unencrypted communications, this directly threatens the lives of the exposed individuals. "It'?s a death sentence," explained a senior Intelligence Community official: "if we're lucky only agents, not our officers, will get killed because of this." (Agents are foreigners working for U.S. intelligence while officers are American staffers.)

CIA and the entire Intelligence Community are in panic mode right now, trying to determine which of our intelligence officers and agents have been compromised by EmailGate. At a minimum, valuable covers have been blown, careers have been ruined, and lives have been put at serious risk. Our spies' greatest concern now is what's still in Hillary's emails that investigators have yet to find.

And what about those 30,000 emails that Ms. Clinton had deleted? "I?ll spend the rest of my career trying to figure out what classified information was in those," stated an exasperated Pentagon counterintelligence official, "everybody is mad as hell right now." "The worst part," the counterspy added," is that Moscow and Beijing have that information but the Intelligence Community maybe never will."

http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking-hillary-clinton-put-spies-lives-at-risk/
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 08:53:13 PM »
  I see the kernel of an alibi there.

  Are her staffers setting this up for her and she is ignorant of the technical details?


     Now, I would get fired for half this much irresponsibility, but if she can realistically plead ignorance of the technical means , then the public may forgive her.

      If she asked her staff for convenience, and they went overboard, this would make her guilty of a lot less than if she participated or asked her staff for a way to escape FOIA.

      She may be merely a bonehead about computers and national security.

      I may give her the benefit of the doubt and vote against her for merely being a bonehead.

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 10:06:29 PM »
a bonehead about computers



Emails show Hillary Clinton had no idea how to check e-mail on a computer

Written By Chad Merda - 02/01/2016

We've learned a lot about Hillary Clinton's ability to use technology as more and more of her emails from her time at the State Department have been released, and now we know that in 2009 checking email on her computer was particularly perplexing.

In an email released on Monday by Judicial Watch, it was revealed that Clinton only knew how to use email via her Blackberry.

The exchange came between State Department official Lewis Lukens and a number of Clinton staffers in a conversation about her email setup.

"We have already started checking into the NSA (Blackberry)," Lukens wrote. "Will set up the office across the hall as requested. Also think we should go ahead (but will await your green light) and set up a stand alone PC in the Secretary's office, connected to the internet (but not through our system) to enable her to check her emails from her desk."

While others chimed in that it would be a "great idea," Lukens later wrote that Clinton's chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, informed him of one major stumbling block.

"I talked to Cheryl about this," Lukens wrote. "She says problem is HRC does not know how to use a computer to do email ? only bb. But I said would not take much training to get her up to speed."

Clinton has previously said she never had a computer in her office during her time as Secretary of State.

Through other email releases, we'zve also found out that Clinton had a heck of a time using a fax machine.

http://national.suntimes.com/national-world-news/7/72/2528939/emails-show-hillary-clinton-idea-check-computer
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2016, 10:23:24 PM »


Hillary's emails included CIA officers' names, report says

By Marisa Schultz

Feb 1, 2016

http://nypost.com/2016/02/01/hillary-clinton-voters-dont-care-about-my-emails/
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2016, 11:17:32 PM »
  Ok, that is her alibi for misusing an internet connection.

   







She is horse and buggy briefed on computers.


Is she Amish?

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Re: Hillary's E-mail-Gate gets worse!
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2016, 09:20:07 AM »
is somebody hearing an indictment is imminent?



Democratic donor contacts Biden allies about possible run

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February 5, 2016

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/democratic-donor-contacts-biden-allies-possible-run-010248619.html
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2016, 09:47:44 AM »
There have been no charges, and there is no evidence that any harm has been done to the country.
This is just more gassing off by ignorant GOPers who have nothing to offer but two  Cubans and a blowhard.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2016, 01:21:39 PM »
A) the CRIMINAL investigation of Clinton's security incompetence, using a private server while SoS is still ongoing, so of course there are no indictments at this time

B)  It doesn't require intent to have wanted to nefariously expose the toppest of secrets to the rest of the world

C) And sadly, we'll never know just how badly she compromised this country's safety & security, most notably super undercover assets in vital locations, as folks like Russia & China won't be divulging what they likely hacked from Clinton's unsecured private server
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 02:35:16 PM »
They already probably know the secrets.

But we don't want them to know that we know that they know.

If this were actually a matter of huge importance, it would surely have merited a better investigation than that they have been doing for over a year.
This is just a stupid political football of no real importance, and nothing will come of it, other than the rightwing gasbags claiming it was ended as a result of a huge Communist conspiracy.

You telling me about this 400 times  is about as useful as you wanking off for ten minutes. If you find it more satisfying than wanking, then you should see a psychiatrist.

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 03:31:36 PM »
They already probably know the secrets.

They do now.  The fact is, you have no fricken clue....that's just your rationalization effort to minimize the damage Clinton caused to this nation's security and top secret assets abroad


If this were actually a matter of huge importance, it would surely have merited a better investigation than that they have been doing for over a year.

a) the STATE Dept, that she was in charge of, and likely had numerous folks assisting her, along with the support of the White House, has been pulling every conceivable delaying tactic to drag this out, for over a year
b) if not for the Benghazi investigation that brought about the discovery of Clinton's unsecure private server, outside the purview of Federal oversight, Clinton would still have been able to hide this level of reckless irresponsibility.


This is just a stupid political football of no real importance,....

....to die-hard liberal democrats and Clinton sycophants perhaps.  To those lives and strategies she's probably destroyed, it's of life altering importance


and nothing will come of it, other than the rightwing gasbags claiming it was ended as a result of a huge Communist conspiracy.

Ahhh...was wondering when the latest deflection would rear its ignorant head.  "Communist conspiracy"??  oy vey.     ::)

One more time for the literate challenged, this was done to shield her actions while SoS, from any Governmental oversight, that she's REQUIRED to adhere to, while a Government employee.  Nothing to do with commies or conspiracies.  It's all about quid pro quo, power, money exchange, and trying to hide anything that could link her to unethical, if not criminal conduct.  The attempted wiping of the server before being forced to turn it over, validated that   

In other words, it had squat to do with convenience
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2016, 05:16:49 PM »
How many people died because of Juniorbush and Cheney's warmongering?

Why don't you bitch about that?
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